How do you emprove if.....

HHennie Marais16 Oct 2007, 14:35

gary, what manifold are you refering to, the exhaust manifold.

GGary5716 Oct 2007, 14:44

Yes I changed the exhaust manifold but my above posts are refering to the inlet cam, std is 240degree 7mm lift, CA18DE cam is 248degree and 8mm lift.

DDracomoderator16 Oct 2007, 15:30

So would it be adviseble for me to fit the inlet cam, I have a stock manifold and a T28 turbo?

GGary5716 Oct 2007, 15:34

It will make more power for sure, the mid range torque is where the best improvements are so far but it still needs to be tuned.

HHennie Marais16 Oct 2007, 15:35

Stock manifold is not that bad actually, it's quite compact but if you remove it and look how the runners are grouped and split then you'll see it quite ok, not a poo Log style manifold but more in the direction of a compact unequal length manifold.

DDracomoderator16 Oct 2007, 15:38

So the point is will my engin be relieble with the inlet cam, would there be a long term fall in reliebility?

GGary5716 Oct 2007, 15:39

Well when I fitted the manifold (just a manifold change nothing else) the car went much better. I would say the mid range torque is about the same so is the lag but the top end power was where the biggest changes were. After 4500rpm I could deffinately feel more power.

GGary5716 Oct 2007, 15:41

I cant see why the reliablity would change much. The wear on the motor will increase but that is because you are getting more cylinder pressure so therefroe more wear on the motor.

HHennie Marais16 Oct 2007, 15:52

Lol, that's the price you have to pay for power But I would worry if I were you, you're not going to half the life of you engine, it's still down to how you drive it.

The thing I notice with manifolds is the engine runs smoother, it doesn't always make more power , reason being the manifold is not the biggest restriction there, it's still the turbo, 95%+ of the backpressure is created by the turbo's turbine and turbine housing.

DDracomoderator16 Oct 2007, 16:02

Well back to squere 1....it comes down to this, it doesn't help I get 10 cubic feet of cold air in but I am only able to get 5 cubic feet out....

As for the driving style....I'll have to seriosly start to convert to granny driving, I am punishing the Ca a bit....not as bad as many others but she is still hurting....

HHennie Marais17 Oct 2007, 08:03

ye, but you get more out now with the larger turbine housing, so you'll be fine.

PPhinx17 Oct 2007, 12:19

Yep there are a number of thing done to my motor that have improved flow, The Turbo is just one of them.

But I must thank Hennie for all is input and help with that Motor of mine.

Also the Ca18det head will flow to over 300 hp with stock cams

HHennie Marais17 Oct 2007, 13:17

after the rebuild and the "new thingy" it'll be even better, you only need a management, hehehehe.

DDracomoderator17 Oct 2007, 14:04

Yoe guys are plotting 😈

PPhinx17 Oct 2007, 14:38

The rebuild is also getting a few tricks...

DDracomoderator17 Oct 2007, 15:34

Phinx wrote:

The rebuild is also getting a few tricks...

You guys are plotting.... 😛

DDracomoderator01 Nov 2007, 11:05

Gary...if I put in the Ca18 cam, should I change timing or anything?

GGary5701 Nov 2007, 11:09

No the timing stays the same but you wll need to get it tuned again.

DDracomoderator01 Nov 2007, 11:26

Gary57 wrote:

No the timing stays the same but you wll need to get it tuned again.

Thanks...figured that about the tunning but didn't know about the timing, thanks, I am considering this move

GGary5701 Nov 2007, 11:29

Well since I have fitted mine the car really pulls after 4000rpm, before then it is quite flat, dont really know why. I am hoping the boost controller will sort the flatness out.

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