Project - Damn CA

vveecee15 Nov 2007, 09:08

hey gary!!! you are one inquisitive oke hey!!!

lol - dont worry about it. we're swopping some parts!

and i do think the honda engine is branded similarly to the nissan one. i'm not 100% sure, but honda have B, C, D, and F etc blocks. and they number them according to the displacement. so you get a honda B18b block for instance, therefore it could well be that there is a C18 honda block!

PPhinx15 Nov 2007, 09:22

Thanks Vl@de , bit I really have tried them all...

Wossner
Ross
Cp
Wiseco
Toda
JE - dont really make for the ca18det

Cheap brands

Power piston
AE

I just think R 5000 - R6000 for just pistons is damn crazy
But thanks dude...

Guess the search is on again

SSokar15 Nov 2007, 09:30

Gary57 wrote:

Do you guys think there is something more than just pistons that make these motor the same?? Like maybe it is a Honda CA18DET and not a Nissan?? I know it happens quite a bit in the industry...

Well, Nissan did buy permission to use the Vtec system "or a clone of it" on the VE's maybe Nissan is copying Honda 😛

GGary5715 Nov 2007, 09:47

I just think R 5000 - R6000 for just pistons is damn crazy

Why dont you just get the stock pistons ceramic coated?? You arent going to be running 1.5bar or anything. If my stock pistons are coping with 1Bar and 200RwKw I am sure that ceramic coated one will cope with even more.

hey gary!!! you are one inquisitive oke hey!!!

lol - dont worry about it. we're swopping some parts!

Haha, Ja I am, I need to everything about everything...

Well, Nissan did buy permission to use the Vtec system "or a clone of it" on the VE's maybe Nissan is copying Honda

I think Nissan and Honda must have some sort of agreement... I wonder what other parts will fit the CA???

SSokar15 Nov 2007, 09:59

Gary57 wrote:

I wonder what other parts will fit the CA???

Oooh, Imagine that a CA18VET

GGary5715 Nov 2007, 10:42

Oooh, Imagine that a CA18VET

That would be awesome, even better than a SR.

RRezlo15 Nov 2007, 11:34

Gary57 wrote:

Oooh, Imagine that a CA18VET

That would be awesome, even better than a SR.

man that would take some serious exhaust and charge pipe work 😂

GGary5715 Nov 2007, 11:37

man that would take some serious exhaust and charge pipe work

Sorry to be ignorant but why?? Never really looked closely at a VE head.

Has anyone actually looked to see if it would fit??

RRezlo15 Nov 2007, 11:40

1st off SR-VE is TOTALY different to a CA, belt vs. chain, cyl spacing ectr,

CA to B? he he he 🙂 you would have one seriously confuzed motor!

GGary5715 Nov 2007, 11:42

1st off SR-VE is TOTALY different to a CA, belt vs. chain, cyl spacing ectr,

CA to B? he he he you would have one seriously confuzed motor!

HEHE ok, could call it a Nisda BA18 or even Honisan 😂 .

RRezlo15 Nov 2007, 11:45

Gary57 wrote:

1st off SR-VE is TOTALY different to a CA, belt vs. chain, cyl spacing ectr,

CA to B? he he he you would have one seriously confuzed motor!

HEHE ok, could call it a Nisda BA18 or even Honisan 😂 .

OR a Nisad or a sinda how ever you hook it up.,

Honda motors run anti clockwise.

PPhinx15 Nov 2007, 12:15

**** UPDATE ****

OK.

I might be keeping the pistons, I will have to see.
Spoken to a Few guys with CA and there is a good chance they might work

The engineering company I’m going with will be able to check the pistons and confirm that they will work...

Work being done by engineering will be

Strip
Weight match
knife-Edge crank
Tear Drop the Crank
Flywheel work
Full Dynamic Balance
Assemble and guarantee

RRezlo15 Nov 2007, 12:31

Phinx wrote:

**** UPDATE ****

OK.

I might be keeping the pistons, I will have to see.
Spoken to a Few guys with CA and there is a good chance they might work

The engineering company I’m going with will be able to check the pistons and confirm that they will work...

Work being done by engineering will be

Strip
Weight match
knife-Edge crank
Tear Drop the Crank
Flywheel work
Full Dynamic Balance
Assemble and guarantee

And in 2 months (average time it takes for rebuilt motors on this forum to blow up) youll cry because your crank is cracked in half?

Do it once, do it right,,,

GGary5715 Nov 2007, 12:36

And in 2 months (average time it takes for rebuilt motors on this forum to blow up) youll cry because your crank is cracked in half?

Why would knife edging and flywheel work do cause it to crack?? I know they remove material but surely they would only remove what is not nessesary??

RRezlo15 Nov 2007, 12:40

Do some research on it, gets very interesting and very complex, especialy with nissan SR20 and CA18 cranks.

There is a reason turbo motors are counter weighted so well...

Save the money on machine costs, buy decent pistons.

GGary5715 Nov 2007, 12:43

Save the money on machine costs, buy decent pistons.

Agreed, I would never spend R4000 on a set of nice forged pistons just to machine then to make them fit. If I couldnt afford proper forged pistons I would get the stock ones ceramic coated.

vveecee15 Nov 2007, 13:00

Rezlo wrote:

Phinx wrote:

**** UPDATE ****

OK.

I might be keeping the pistons, I will have to see.
Spoken to a Few guys with CA and there is a good chance they might work

The engineering company I’m going with will be able to check the pistons and confirm that they will work...

Work being done by engineering will be

Strip
Weight match
knife-Edge crank
Tear Drop the Crank
Flywheel work
Full Dynamic Balance
Assemble and guarantee

And in 2 months (average time it takes for rebuilt motors on this forum to blow up) youll cry because your crank is cracked in half?

Do it once, do it right,,,

LOL - mine's lasted over a year now (with almost weekly drifting) and about 20 000km's. thank god!

GGary5715 Nov 2007, 13:17

I have a very light flywheel which did make a good difference, but because of this I have a lumpy idle 😢 .

PPhinx15 Nov 2007, 13:42

Thanks for the advice....

Will look into it

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