Home made water/meth kit

Like the idea of that w/m dedicated section! 😛

just a bit of background on this...

I made my own kit for a golf and golly it does work but I used a bit of an engineering brain and some mad skills.

I used a snow performance tank, used normal vacuum pipes, and you will laugh your asses off ja...a nozzle of one of those weed poison spray tanks.(its nice coz its adjustable)

Now NA cars run on a vacuum when on idle and no vacuum when on throttle.
(Aspirated cars run on boost when on throttle.)

My first try was when I was running a Modded 1.3 Carb golf. I had a 36dcd on and modded the carb with a injection needle(like a jet) and the principal of air(flow) over anlge = vacuum. the vacuum then caused the water to start flowing when throttle is open and stop when the throttle is closed. I mounted it on the second stage butterfly of the of the carbs. It worked great and I got the 1.3 golf up to 65 kw on a cam racing fuel and water.

Then It receiced a heart transplant and got a 1.8 8valve Fuel injection motor managed by a Mr. Turbo fmi. Now on this it was a bit differnt. I couldnt mount the needle inside the TB coz of obvious reasons. So I had to make some minor ajustmets...he he thats where the PC came in handy! I mounted it into the CAI pipe at an anlge to maximize the spray effect.

I used my windscreen washer Bottle as a reservoir and connected a that nozzle onto it. I made a return line from the "feed" pipe back into the tank using a injection needle to manage the amount of water. On the Mr. Turbo system they have an Auxillary "channel" cable which I set to a rpm range and then it powers up the little windscreen washer pump which then squirts water into the mix with the air an that lowers the air temp going into the engine which inturn lets more air and fuel in which = more power with a bit of water helping the burnout!

He he mad I know but hell it works!

Dont try it on your own tho!

Great, Nice, I enjoyed this reading. 8)

And did you advance some timing too?

Yes lately w/m is fully controllable and you get electronic safeguard goodies.

I have the latest version UNICHIP and can now control my w/m with one of the outputs from that unichip. So with my next dyno, I will ask the tuners to do just that. On the moment it get triggered from the AFM. And I dont like that. It works fine, but I am uncomfortable with this 17 year old sensors.

Also the Unichip can control boost.

Chem

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And if you missed my previous posts: visit www.snowperformance.de
My sx futures on that German site. It is a German site dedicated to w/m . And the bald dude on one of the pics, is not me.heheheh

Chem 8)

Is this kit good enough for our cars?? http://www.autostyle.co.za/prodview.php?prod_id=15291&pid=performance&cid=performance par&pg=1&showall=&brandstr=&str=
Doesn’t seem too expensive??
Is it a big job to fit on your own??

That kit is decent. A friend of mine had it on his VW jetta fsi and he got 179kw tuned by Robbie F. So if you wanna go that route do your thing but make sure you dont go DIY. You will most prolly mess it up! Let the Pros do it!

I think that is the kit Draco and Chemcool have, it is a good kit. Go to Snowperformance.net and read about it.

That is not a bad price, just check, the pick seems to be the digital trigger system like Chemcools but the discription suggests the manual trigger like mine, mine uses boost pressure to activate, it seems that price is for the manual kit, the digital one will most properly be more.

I got mine for R2500,kit + installed and car dynod.

Yes, I use the electronic trigger kit. You can then diy easy.
Chem 8)

HancoB wrote:

You will most prolly mess it up! Let the Pros do it!

so its true then???

you think most okes on this forum are numbnuts???

these okes are quite on par with most things technical and mechanical, and more so when it comes to the 200sx!!!

careful there hanco - i for one take offence!

Well put it this way, Robbie F installed it on my friends jetta and he ended up with water in the sump!

So who is better? Robbie F or well the DIY look at me i'm good bloke?

I trust Robbie and he screwed it up! Its just a warning so that he doesnt screw his up. Just helping thats all!

my biggest concern with this whole DIY jobbie is the adjustable nozzle thing!!!

if its adjustable it probably means that the tip can come off.

i just hope it doesnt come off in the piping and then end up in teh combustion chambers!!!

that would totally suck mabroo - like fully hey!!! not even the mountain could make that nicer!!! 😂 😂

Nope it was adjustable to a point. Like those orange hose spray things.

veecee wrote:

that would totally suck mabroo - like fully hey!!! not even the mountain could make that nicer!!! 😂 😂

Well at least you can throw the engine off the mountain... with the water/meth kit attached

Do most of you have the reservoir for the water/meth in your boots? Is it not possible to have the reservoir in the engine bay?? This would save a lot of time and energy??

They use your windscreen washer tank. Its larger and is already fitted! 😂

Just remember that your tank has to sit higher than the pump sothat there is down flow to pump, the pump does not suck flued towards itself it only pumps it....

Yip. Good sense so far. Great. I also use my windscreen washer bottle. Much better now than my previous tank fit in the engine bay.
Also the nozzles are designed very well and wont end up in the wrong places.
And I am looking forward to trigger the w/m with my Unichip. Kind a like feel the unichip now becomes more smarter and works for money paid.

Chem 8) 8)

So Mario, NOS jets are no good.
And as mentioned to you, NOS and Turbo dont sell the kit parts seperatly.
Then you can go the route of drilling the nozzles yourself. But this is not easy pal. Those holes are very,very small. So, economically, this is not good. The kit is the way to go man.
Chem 8)

I will call Turbo and Nos 2 morrow and confirm parts we need.

I predict, that w/m is going to bloom in SA one of these days. Just give the SA's change to catch up. Although I had an argument about this with a dude on the S and S forum. He also came up with the story of " wm = a band aid". Probably heard that from Calibrator. And if Calibrator is reading this, he will remember the occasion when we argued about it on this same forum. It was also The Calibrator who fitted qwerty's (s14) w/m system with great success.
BTW: I am known to the Calibrator. I have met him.

So, I will not become involved in discussions about is w/m good or not good. How ever pro and cons versus FMIC and combinations with FMIC is always interesting.

I use w/m now for more than a year without any issues and happy about it.

I am looking forward though to exchange any other knowledge to future w/m users.

So Vlade(Pimp), is our space coming up? Nah, may be to early now. Let us see what happens in future.

Chem 8)