Water/Methanol Injection

CChemCooladmin01 Dec 2006, 21:09

I can not comment on aquamist at all. I use Snow Performance. I did not not get involved in cost . I think I was just happy with service received from Snow. Surely aqaumist will be fine.

TThe Calibrator02 Dec 2006, 07:18

I never said water/ methanol did not work I said its a BandAid. as far as the systems go I dont like the Snow pump it is larger and seems to be noisier than the Auqamist.

CChemCooladmin02 Dec 2006, 07:36

ok. sorted out .Last comment on the octane values and invisible flame:
Water/Meth injection works in two parts to help prevent detonation: Inlet charge cooling and in cylinder cooling. When you increase boost you have to retard timing to prevent detonation. Or the other option is to run a high octane fuel. With W/M you can add back in that timing for greater hp and run on pump gas. During injection, with a 93 octane b fuel, your effective octane is around 116. This higer ocatane number does not come from the higher octane of methanol, but to due charge cooling and in cylinder cooling.
What ever prperly designed system you come up with, and on pump gas, you will get more detonation control with W/M and be able to increase the power.

Yes methanol burns in an invisable flame and is toxic but is safer when mixed with water. -25F washer fluid is on average 36% methanol. HEET gasline antifreeze is almost pure methanol.

TTobyadmin03 Dec 2006, 10:09

Nice one, guys! Very informative! I have to say, I used to think water/meth was a "bandaid" as mentioned, because to me it felt like NOS - push a button for more power, then refill your "power juice" again.

However, after seeing it in Freddie's car, and driving in it, I can tell you it is far more practical than I had imagined - the system runs automatically (i.e. no pushing of buttons) and continuously. If the meth runs out, you won't be stranded, car still runs fine. Also the meth lasts about as long as your fuel (depending on driving and size of meth tank), so you can just fill up meth when you fill up fuel. And meth is cheap. And Freddie can now run without an intercooler! Very short pipe from turbo to intake -> almost no lag!

For such a simple and cheap system, the benefits are huge. For people considering it, please check out Freddie's car.

CChemCooladmin03 Dec 2006, 20:18

The best reading ever on water/meths and check out their forum: www.snowperformance.net
My source and quotes from these guys.

DDesertrat03 Dec 2006, 20:46

I have been reading up on this a lot and it looks like a good option, it is not perfect but what is? How does it compare to the FMIC cars in terms of response time?

CChemCooladmin03 Dec 2006, 20:52

The FMIC will still have an influence regardng responses. Remember, I took my intercooler out!! Can do that up to a point depending on such typicall installation and depending nozzels sizes etc.

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