strange engine behaviour - any clues???

PPuls0nic25 Jan 2007, 17:25

widowmaker wrote:

veecee wrote:

when i get the car into boost, it misfires, splutters, farts, loss of power, smell of fuel, and very very loud banging noises out the exhuast.
i had a very loud tappet noise the day before,

what do you mean - i thought this was normal ???

its the built in misfirespluttersfartpowerlossfuelsmellovision - it often bangs to get rid of the bad stuff inside
and actually, the farts come before the splutter, but seeing that it is a split second, it is a common misconception to the people from nonSXville

there is no cure, but it will make things more easy if you stop going to edenville - why would you do sumfing like that now? weird!

enough talking, time for some screaming

wtf? 😮

PPuls0nic25 Jan 2007, 17:26

widowmaker wrote:

veecee wrote:

when i get the car into boost, it misfires, splutters, farts, loss of power, smell of fuel, and very very loud banging noises out the exhuast.
i had a very loud tappet noise the day before,

what do you mean - i thought this was normal ???

its the built in misfirespluttersfartpowerlossfuelsmellovision - it often bangs to get rid of the bad stuff inside
and actually, the farts come before the splutter, but seeing that it is a split second, it is a common misconception to the people from nonSXville

there is no cure, but it will make things more easy if you stop going to edenville - why would you do sumfing like that now? weird!

enough talking, time for some screaming

wtf? 😮

TTobyadmin25 Jan 2007, 19:22

Ok, so iridium or platinum spark plugs cost a lot... BUT.... they last 100,000km! Yes, 100,000km!! So is it still expensive? šŸ˜• And since we're all using 95 unleaded anyway, what's the problem?

BTW, I worked it out once, and it costs a whopping R5 more to fill up on 95 unleaded than 93 unleaded...

But throw in a can of Winn's Fuel System Cleaner, and you get about 100 to 200km more per tank!

EEro_sennin25 Jan 2007, 20:33

But throw in a can of Winn's Fuel System Cleaner, and you get about 100 to 200km more per tank!

Why and how? o and where, Toby? 😮

CChemCooladmin25 Jan 2007, 20:36

Ok, so iridium or platinum spark plugs cost a lot... BUT.... they last 100,000km! Yes, 100,000km!! So is it still expensive? And since we're all using 95 unleaded anyway, what's the problem?

Yup, I like that. 8) 8)

PPuls0nic25 Jan 2007, 23:00

Ero_sennin wrote:

But throw in a can of Winn's Fuel System Cleaner, and you get about 100 to 200km more per tank!

Why and how? o and where, Toby? 😮

Dude, daai goed word verkoop by plekke soos Midas. En dit word gespel Wynn's, nie winn's 8)

But not sure about getting that much more kilo's out of the car per tank

TTobyadmin26 Jan 2007, 07:48

Ero_sennin wrote:

But throw in a can of Winn's Fuel System Cleaner, and you get about 100 to 200km more per tank!

Why and how? o and where, Toby? 😮

Ok, so I exaggerated a *little* bit šŸ™‚ On my S2k, I got 100km more on a tank of 95 unleaded + Wynn's fuel system cleaner. Without Wynns = 10,7km per litre, with Wynns = 12,7km per litre! Massive difference - 2km more per litre = 100km more per 50litre tank. Plus, it cleans out your fuel system, so I tend to chuck in a can in every 3rd tank of petrol.

Dunno about the SX 'cos even though I did throw in a can or two, my mile-o-meter goes to sleep every now and then so I never know quite what kind of mileage I'm getting. But you do get an idea and it did improve the mileage on my SX. Try it, guys! It's about R28 from Midas or Makro or Game or probably even your local garage convenience store! (I promise I don't have shares in Wynns šŸ™‚) It's the white and red can with a clear liquid, not the blue liquid (never tried the blue one)

sstupidshirt26 Jan 2007, 08:29

how much petrol can you get for R28?

vveecee26 Jan 2007, 09:00

R28 = 4.667l at 6 rand per litre.

at toby's stated 10.7km/l thats an extra 49.9369km's.

and if wynns gives an extra 100km's per bottle then its much more economical!!!

and the wynns is probably a 500ml bottle (thats an assumption).

which means if i buy enough to fill my tank (50l) then i need 100 bottles.

at R28 per bottle, that amounts to R280 for a tank.

at the abovementioned R6/1l petrol normally costs R300.00 to fill my tank.

does that mean that if i use 50 bottles of wynns to fill my tank, and each bottle gives an extra 100km's, that i will get 5000km's per tank of cheaper wynns fuel???

screw BP - i'm going to midas to fill up!!!

sstupidshirt26 Jan 2007, 09:04

cool, I was too lazy to think, so I thought one of yous will do it for me
šŸ™‚

vveecee26 Jan 2007, 09:08

dammit...

i know this is the technical section, but geesus i hate maths.

100 bottles of R28 wynns petrol cleaner is R2800.00, not R280.00

so its actually 10 times more expensive, but gives 10 times more mileage from a tank...

so its THE SAME DIFFERENCE!!!!

TTobyadmin26 Jan 2007, 09:13

It's actually R2800 for the 100 bottles. But if the car DID infact run on Wynns rather than fuel, calculating that it adds 2km per litre to a full tank of fuel (which is a dilution of 500ml into 50 litres):

mileage on Wynns = 2km/l * 50 / 0.5 = 200km per litre

So, out of a full tank, you will get..... 10,000kms!!! WOOOOHOOOO!!!
10,000km for R2800, that's 28c per kilometer!

DDracomoderator26 Jan 2007, 09:14

widowmaker wrote:

.6 is a bit tight, no?
check it - take plug out, hold against engine (WITH PLIERS!!)
check spark - bigger gap gives bigger spark (up to a point)
too big i've heard that the "flame will get blown out", which i think is BS, but just regurgitating what ive heard - flame away
too small, too cold = carbon

bigger spark = faster than a red s13!

You know, a lot of people have alot to say, lets stop talking, come and beat my slow red sx with my small gap with my spark blown out.....!

I am not be the fastest at all but Freddy should be able to tell you that I am not slow at all....with my small gap and blown out spark......!

My setup works for me, if your mind tells you it can't, suck it up like a big boy and let the truth be.....

vveecee26 Jan 2007, 09:19

someone piss in your porridge?

DDracomoderator26 Jan 2007, 09:30

Nope....just people think they know but they don't....anybody has their opinions the same as you, it might not always be the right 1....I might want to piss in someones porrige though.....

vveecee26 Jan 2007, 09:45

Derek-son wrote:

...I might want to piss in someones porrige though.....

thats your opinion šŸ˜‚

i would prefer to walk over to the owner of the company that i am consulting for, and piss o... you know the rest!!!

aaaaaannnnnnnyyyyywwwwwwwwaaaaaaayyyyyyy

my plug gaps are 0.8mm and they've been fine for a long while, i forget what plug codes i'm using, but now the car wont spark under boost...

my advice - dont EVER drive like a granny!

DDracomoderator26 Jan 2007, 09:59

I wanted to piss in my directors porrige but luckely he left....

Opinions opinions opinions, sometimes we love'em, sometimes we say f*ckem, sometimes we mockem..... šŸ˜‰

vveecee30 Jan 2007, 10:10

ok i'm now ready to piss in anyones porridge at the moment.

this weekend i had the head in pieces, cams out, i replaced the noisy lifters with not so noisy ones. you can hear which are the noisy ones with a nice long screwdriver shoved in your ear!!! or a mechanic's stethascope!!!

i checked out the coils, i fixed an oil leak, i generally sorted the head out. i did forget to regap the plugs, and they looked a little bigger than normal.

and yesterday afternoon the car was going like an animal!!! at all boosts, and all rpm's, and all temperatures!!!

this morning is spent 45 mins in heavy traffic and after that the damn !@!!!!@$#^#^#$%&*%(^&*)^%#$%!@! sx woldn't rev past 3600rpm without doing splutter-fart-no power-black fuel out the exhaust-backfiring like an R1 rifle-thingy!!!

it seems like its only when its hot.

here's a pic of my open cylinder head.

this is how clean things are after 15000km's of driving almost everyday! i am so proud, but at the moment we aren't friends!!!

DDracomoderator30 Jan 2007, 10:22

Seems the sx pissed in your porrige šŸ˜‚ it sounds to me like a leak in the head gasket, see if she is using water, if she is, retorque the head or the gasket has gone, that was my problem a wile back....other than that it might be your knock sensor thats buggerd...but thats unlikely

DDislex66630 Jan 2007, 10:32

what plugs are you using veecee?

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