Dyno Shortcomings - When Dyno tunning

SSpeed breeder29 Apr 2009, 08:48

what machine you trying to connect? does your laptop die quite quickly?

vveecee29 Apr 2009, 09:10

my good laptop doesnt want to recognise any serial/usb connector!

and the laptop with a serial port has no battery at all, so it needs permanent power!

SSpeed breeder29 Apr 2009, 09:16

thats kak...

I think you need to invest in a new laptop, or buy a very long extention cord...LOL

I have a Laptop you can use. Battery life is about an hour, but the hard drive died...

So you can install your hard drive and use it if you want.

What brand is the Laptop that dies?

PPinkfluffybunnys29 Apr 2009, 09:17

I can honestly see why you are struggling , I was very lucky my management system accepts input from my wideband so I can see on a graph the cell accessed the requested AFR and the real AFR and tune from there my fueling took me about 30minutes to lay out and 6 months to fine tune.

I just want my Knock board to work so I can start on the timing

vveecee29 Apr 2009, 09:35

all i need to get is a map sensor, the old mans beetle has one that i think i can use!

then i can use the wideband to log RPM, AFR and MAP. should be enough.

but i'm also having issues with the correct settings on the accelerator pump sensitivity and ms settings, which means it doesnt like to rev up from idle nicely.

also - when i climb onto boost the car bogs heavily, and the AFR reading shot to 8 something from a steady 12-13.

so ya - i have some work to do!

if my car was stock i would also go with that nistune without a doubt. makes life easy!

HHighboost29 Apr 2009, 12:54

Hey hey, I see we have a lot of "tuners" on the forum... ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

Guys if this is something you have not done before, stay away unless you want to pay the "school fees"

PFB - I agree, a lot of the everyday driving - is normally on the section Dyno tuning does not get to... If your tuner has not done at least an hour on the road tuning - the car is not tuned!!!!!!!!! ๐Ÿ˜ˆ Then we havent even touched on Cold start enrichment etc..... Then we havent even touched on Cold start enrichment etc.....

My tuner include about 1 to 2 hours on the road tuning in his so called DYNOTUNE. Jacques PPR peformance in GEORGE 083 564 6499 - I have seen a few of his dyno printouts on the forum e.g. Rudeboy. He charges R 850 for a dynotune which include road tuning.... Total about 4 hours. He lives 350Km from me, But I put my car on a trailer and do the trip everytime.

Give him a shout or get your tuner to do some tuning while you drive !!

PPinkfluffybunnys29 Apr 2009, 13:01

Iโ€™m a pay the school fee's type of guy ..

But Iโ€™m sure a Few guys here can benefit from the advice and contact details and I canโ€™t help but agree if it hasnโ€™t been road tuner itโ€™s not done right.

Like gary said a dyno has its place but its so small I would rather road tune and log the data

vveecee29 Apr 2009, 14:23

lol - i havent really tuned before...

but i've paid a lot of school fees and i dont mind paying more!

also - i've paid a lot for some nice equipment, and i have many friends, from this forum and elsewhere, who are giving lots of input too.

so i think things will be ok.

i just stick to the wise suggestions, question the incomprehensible ones, and go with the flow!!!

i already know a whole lot more than i did yesterday, so tonight...

we try again!!!

LOL!

RRiekertadmin29 Apr 2009, 15:45

all this sounds fun!

dammit! my bikirom doesn't want to work!! agh!

pphoenix s1429 Apr 2009, 22:39

I have a bikirom for a S14 and mine does not work either... software support has also been halted... sucks... but anyway... my S14 should be running at the end of May or early June... will be trying to get a nistune board before then and tune on road...

RRiekertadmin29 Apr 2009, 22:45

phoenix s14 wrote:

I have a bikirom for a S14 and mine does not work either... software support has also been halted... sucks... but anyway... my S14 should be running at the end of May or early June... will be trying to get a nistune board before then and tune on road...

ah... that kinda sucks... mmm... well bye bye biki... hello nistune!!

Phoenix please let me know what the full costs are for the nistune once you get it, please!

thanx!

pphoenix s1429 Apr 2009, 22:52

mmmm I see the site is updated... maybe I should give it another shot... God knows it might just be worth it... ๐Ÿ˜‚

RRiekertadmin29 Apr 2009, 22:55

phoenix s14 wrote:

mmmm I see the site is updated... maybe I should give it another shot... God knows it might just be worth it... ๐Ÿ˜‚

my laptop doesn't want to install the USB drivers... it just says some files missing or something...

my desktop machine has it installed etc. but ja... my car isn't close to my desktop ๐Ÿ˜ข so i can't do crap! and I need to update the firmware....

pphoenix s1429 Apr 2009, 22:56

I have just downloaded new software again... will test with the old ECU and Bikirom once the car is running... maybe I can get it to work... I have a version 2 board... what you running riekert?

RRiekertadmin29 Apr 2009, 23:01

same, also v2

but mine freaked out with the new software... it started to do a firmware update and then just froze... came back to life and said a critical system error has occurred, and should've been handled internally... and I haven't been able to get it connected since.. ๐Ÿ˜ข ๐Ÿ˜ข i don't know what to do except to carry my desktop to the garage and test it... might work because the USB drivers installed correctly?

pphoenix s1429 Apr 2009, 23:07

mmm I had similar issues... p-ed me off and I stuck the old ecu back... at least that was working... at one stage the car started with the ecu and bikirom but was in limp mode... never got it working... will try this once more when it is running but if it fails again I am really buying nistune... seems like there are no real problems with it at least...

(praying software works...) ๐Ÿ˜‚

1. Download and install the newest Bikisoft. http://bikirom.com/Software.php

2. Install the bikirom into your ECU. http://forum.bikirom.com/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=7deee5de7c702772ac3e6d9b79f6806d

3. Plug the bikirom into your computer. You should be prompted for new hardware install. Direct the installer to the USB Drivers folder under the directory where the bikisoft was installed.

4. Make sure the cars ignition is set to on and start the Bikisoft program. Make sure you are WORKING OFFLINE.

5. Do a firmware update right away. It might take a while and you might not even see any progress bars for a bit. But let it work and it should finish. If it takes more than....5 minutes you might have a problem.

6. After the firmware is done(it will let you know in the lower left) load up the correct bas file cooresponding to your ECU. This is very important, make sure you use the correct base file.

7. Now go to adjust-> data streams and select all of the variables to "stream" except the last 3(which arent needed).

8. Make sure you UPLOAD your new settings and map to the bikirom. Once that is done reset the ecu(turn the key off and then back on).

9. Now press F8 or select work online. You should see the TPS, water, ign, and all of the other consult features function. Press the gas pedal to make sure it is reading.

10. Have fun tuning!

- is said to work this way... mmmm

RRiekertadmin29 Apr 2009, 23:11

yeah.... also read that... it doesn't help.... ag well will shlep my desktop to the garage on friday and see whats up... hopefully get it back on track...

pphoenix s1429 Apr 2009, 23:31

PLEASE let me know if you get it working... I so wish I can get it running properly... I dont care about further upgrades as long as I can tune the engine properly... ๐Ÿ˜‰

RRiekertadmin30 Apr 2009, 07:38

phoenix s14 wrote:

PLEASE let me know if you get it working... I so wish I can get it running properly... I dont care about further upgrades as long as I can tune the engine properly... ๐Ÿ˜‰

will do.

DDracomoderator30 Apr 2009, 07:53

I also had a simular problem...I have Mr turbo in...got the software but they use the old 9 pin serial port.....so I got the serial port adapter and installed it....didn't work...so I went back and let the install the right drivers....the cd that came with did not have the right drivers on ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

Still the Mr turbo and laptop does not want to communicate....it says comm error....I wanted to do the learning thing and also tune on the road.... :x

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