Project Low Boost - Damn CA

vveecee05 Apr 2007, 23:32

check out details on the CA16de. the intake cam will give you extra duration, and extra lift. and it fits in there. unless thats what you meant.

the exhaust cam is difficult to mod or change because the CAS runs off of it. although i heard a funny story about yours!!!

oh and i remember that i cant benchpress 250kg's, or 90kg one arm dumbbell rows, 0r 230kg shrugs, or any of that stuff, but i can always ask the chemical brothers to help me get masseev!!!

SSokar06 Apr 2007, 10:32

veecee wrote:

check out details on the CA16de. the intake cam will give you extra duration, and extra lift. and it fits in there. unless thats what you meant.

The CA16 would give better. Good luck finding one in SA, I dont think we got the CA16 here. I think thats why Phinx didnt even mention it.

vveecee06 Apr 2007, 13:24

Sokar wrote:

veecee wrote:

check out details on the CA16de. the intake cam will give you extra duration, and extra lift. and it fits in there. unless thats what you meant.

The CA16 would give better. Good luck finding one in SA, I dont think we got the CA16 here. I think thats why Phinx didnt even mention it.

seen some advertised at various engine importers, granted thats been quite recently though!!!!

PPhinx06 Apr 2007, 20:19

The Ca18De sold here was the non-Emissions model.

It has the same Duration and lift as the Ca16DE.
But I cant find a CA18De cam, Phoned every Nissan scrapyard in PTA and they say the 1.8 16V are damn rare...

The Exhaust cam fits on the intake side with no modifications.
But for the hell of it I'm having cam gears made next month

TThe Calibrator09 Apr 2007, 15:48

VD Linde has CA18 grinds and there are billets floating around.
My bud picked up 40HP at 1.5bar by fitting 264's so dont think cams dont work on turbo cars.

wwidowmaker09 Apr 2007, 16:22

you maybe right there - after the meeting on Saturday I picked up 93 kilograms at 4 bars. Howz that!
well, it helped me sporting my club t-shirt (and sadly all 93 kilograms happened at the last bar 🙄 )

aag well...

'nee oom, ek praat kak saam met die grootmense' - while im waiting for some resin to dry...

CChemCooladmin09 Apr 2007, 20:36

Just because the Ecu does not log fault does not mean the sensors are ok. It will log faults if there open circuits but as long as it gets some kind of reading it will happily assume the sensors are fine. In my experience anyway.

Duane,This I can confirm now. I tested all sensors according to FSM( Well 90% of them) and my last resort was the CAS en power transistor. Eventually the CAS the reason for my 2500 rpm nose dive what ever problem. 😉 Could this CAS problem be picked up via the ECU codes on the "while driving mode?". 🙄

PPhinx10 Apr 2007, 07:39

I Have spoken with VD linda. They don't have billet units and don't plan on getting.

I'm really not a fan of regrinding but in order to make the regrinds work with increased lift the valve stem has to be lengthened. Really not a fan on that Idea. Because I like my 7300 Rpm redline. (well thats where my limiter kicks in) . Don't get me wrong I know VD linda does good work and they are pretty cheap

But I'm still in the market for billets if you know of anyone selling. Or a Ca18De cam
I'm also agree cam's on a turbo set-up can gain HP.

vveecee10 Apr 2007, 07:41

how much you willing to spend, cos there are company's out there that sell cams for our motors.

but big brands like tomei and hks only come to mind.

and if you gonna import, why not get one from a ca16, apparently its a big gain?

PPhinx10 Apr 2007, 12:02

The Ca16de cam is not really a big gain.

I would like the big name cams but really cant afford that type of money

PPhinx29 Apr 2007, 20:05

Ok guys, I have got my hands on new Info about cams for our baby's.

The Stock CA18DET inlet-Cam
Duration: 240
Lift : 7.8mm lift

The CA16DE inlet-cam Info
Duration: 248
Lift : 8.5mm lift

Note: Now we all know the CA16DE never came to south Africa our loss? NO we got the JDM (Non emissions controlled) CA18DE

The JDM CA18DE inlet-cam Info
Duration: 252
Lift : 8.5mm lift

I have sourced one of these cams I can confirm the clams, the cam does have more lift and more duration the extra duration can be seen when comparing these cams side by side.

I have installed the cam and it has given my car a lopey idle , Its put a lump of power at around 4000 RPM to around 5500 RPM and helped with the throttle response on the engine.

But don't expect a great increase in power the car feels a little bit stronger but nothing earth shattering but for R 750 its not bad. You can have cams reprofiled for around R 1000 but then you have to get your valve extended to increase lift.

I have search high and low for billet cams for the CA18DET, I am unable to find anyone that have but expect to pay around R 2000 just for billet with no profile...

p.s i know where to get a ca18 cam should anyone want one

DDesertrat30 Apr 2007, 08:55

i also put a ca 18de inlet cam in about a week ago, cant wait to try it! (haven't put the engine back yet)

WWooHaa30 Apr 2007, 15:42

Desertrat wrote:

i also put a ca 18de inlet cam in about a week ago, cant wait to try it! (haven't put the engine back yet)

Hey deserat, you should also put an article on your rebuild. Talking to you at the event, you seemed to have some pretty good idea's.

PPhinx23 May 2007, 07:50

OK long time no update.

I have been having some issues with the car and changed some stuff (Thanks Hennie)

  • My BOV is now on its own VAC source..
    AFM has been cleaned new plugs added at 1 mm gap..
    Intake manifold leak fixed..

But now I have a Cam seal oil leak, and my first gear is unusable.
If I jump on the peddle in first my wheels just let go and I get bad wheel hop.

Anyway my updated grocery list is for the next couple of months:

  • Nismo Engine Mounts
    Must Install Oil Cooler
    440cc injectors
    Custom Intake Manifold
    Cam gears.
    Improved Radiator

I am currently speaking with a company on the States to create a custom "Chip"with all my modifications and fuel "Ron" for me to solder into my ECU based off a "mines" tune.

Should be very cost effective should it work .
We will see, Atleast i have a spare motor if it goes wrong 🙄

I'm aiming at 180 Wkw at 0.8 Psi / 055 bar

HHennie Marais23 May 2007, 08:01

LOL, pleasure.

Have you email Horsham to hear if they can do a chip for you.

GGary5723 May 2007, 08:38

I am currently speaking with a company on the States to create a custom "Chip"with all my modifications and fuel "Ron" for me to solder into my ECU based off a "mines" tune.

You can take my ECU with daughter board, then no need to solder and unsolder 😂 .

I'm aiming at 180 Wkw at 0.8 Psi / 055 bar

Thats some serious power for 0.55Bar 😕 .

PPhinx23 May 2007, 09:04

Hmm nope I haven't contacted " Horsham".
Will get there E-mail address now.

You can take my ECU with daughter board, then no need to solder and unsolder Laughing .

I made you an offer it still stands if you interested. 😮

Thats some serious power for 0.55Bar Confused .

I'm sure it can be done a wise man once told me is all about flow.
The less of a restriction you can make the less "boost needed to make power because the flow is un-restricted.

GGary5723 May 2007, 09:17

The less of a restriction you can make the less "boost needed to make power because the flow is un-restricted.

That is true but power is factor of cylinder pressure, the more pressure the more power (very vaguely speaking), do you think the stock setup is that restrictive?? I know the plumen is very restrictive.

But with cams I sure you will make it, good luck.

I made you an offer it still stands if you interested.

That offer needs to go up slightly 😂 .

PPhinx23 May 2007, 09:55

That offer needs to go up slightly.

Ok I will offer you R50 more?

And your right but it an easy and not the best way of tunning.

Its about how effectively you can fill the cylinders , At the same time decreasing losses (heat losses because of increased pressure) and more effectively using that energy

Ok its more complicated then that but that works.

GGary5723 May 2007, 10:11

Ok I will offer you R50 more?

Haha a bit more than that 😉 .

Well I made 170-180RwKw odd at 0.8 and I know my boost pipes are restrictive, so once the new cooler and pipes are in I will definately see a difference. My goal is 200RwKw, but I think Ill stop after the FMIC maybe a few small mods here and there but nothing major.

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