Hello everyone from Zimbabwe Need help with my Gtr34 engine

ZZimNismoboy3406 Oct 2010, 21:04

Hi Tobie, thankyou for that information though i am still very scared to try and build this motor by myself.
My Misses recons i got one more shot this or we throw the car away.
After getting some mad pricing from Rips nz i cant imagine having a motor built by him.
So im back at square one.
Do you own your own Gtr32.
Where do you source your spares from if you dont mind me asking.
Have you built your own motor ?

ZZimNismoboy3427 Oct 2010, 23:06

Well is been a hectic couple of weeks .
I have had funerals prangs and a flu from hell well more like a viral flu it wasnt funny tried to kil me.
So my ae86 is a bit screwed and it wasnt my fault just waiting on insurance so i can claim back and get my spares and get the 20v build and transplant on the way hec 16v was a blast but i need a more responsive motor so 20v black top 4age here i come.

Any ways i have noticed that some people have used the poll and recommened that i go back to the engine builder.
I got a call from a good friend yesterday, he recons why did i go and post all that information about Steve clarke......... Thats not good !!!

Well truth be told he built my motor and has walked away with not even a look back to say let me help you....
When i approached my Clarke and asked him what can we do to sort this problem i have out he said ....
We can put a Nissan Diesel patrol crank shaft into my engine and good block and build from there ( i asked what can you bring to the table )
So would any good engine builder want to put a tata engine into a evo because it would work ????
Frankly i wasnt amused by this, sure his labour was going to be free to rebuild this engine but i broke a complete motor then had to go out a buy another complete motor again per say....
First engine that Mr Clarke built threw a rod out the block with extensive damage to

Head
Block
Crank shaft
Conrods
piston mangeled and mashed into mash potatoe.

So hence i would have thought my engine builder would have come back with more then just a cup of tea and a diesel crankshaft ....

Would any of you feel the same way let me know what you think and your thoughts and comments what would you do in the same situtation???

aaep88628 Oct 2010, 07:10

you need a F20C in that AE86 not a 4AGE 20v
and get a RB26 crate engine for the R34

DDanielmoderator28 Oct 2010, 09:02

Without having read through this whole thing.

Have you tried NXgen? Theyre probably not cheap, but if your getting pricing from RIPS they have to be loads cheaper than that?

lljS1428 Oct 2010, 13:37

From my experience NO tuner/builder is going to replace your motor for free ,It just not the way they do business or they would be bankrupt as shit happens with motors .There is too many things that can go wrong that the excuse can be.There has been a few guys names dragged through the mud on this and other forums when the tuner/biulder walked away and said its not problem

Getting the labour for free is fair on his part,At least he is not telling you to piss off completely that some of the guys will do.

I am not sticking up for him i am just stating a fact that this is how MOST maybe not all the tuners/builders work in SA been right or wrong is another matter.

Buy a motor from an importer and tell Steve Clark to sort it out ,it will cost R22K for the motor only then.Hopefully the bolt-ons are in good nick and you good to go.

Or buy the parts for a high hp motor and get him to build it free of charge

My 2c

TTobie28 Oct 2010, 14:34

That 2.9L diesel crank jobbie works well if done right, not many okes have tried this in masses, but in Japan it works beautifully.

You have to modify the main cap girdle and block and conrods extensively though.

But this is the problem, I think rather stick to less complicated things so that less can go wrong.

ZZimNismoboy3407 Nov 2010, 00:48

I didnt realise this post had attracted so much attention.
My apologies for not responding sooner.
Thankyou all for the responses, it all counts every single one of them ..
Even the Honda engine post going into my ae86 ... sorry bud i cant get a honda motor here and even if i did mapping it and getting it to run in this country is not possible.

Cheers for the heads up tobie about the diesel crank but that doesnt sound like the crank that My man steve speaks about from what i know and i havent confirmed this yet but he wouldnt have to modify any girdles or caps or rods the crank needs slight machining and will work straight off the cuff....

Its tough to say who is right ... who is wrong fact is fact this is not a ordinary car and not a normal motor, its high performance we talking here.
So with a high performance engine comes risk and that risk has been taken and bang went the engine sadly.
Steve is a good lad, im just really upset that something like this had to happen .... maybe if he wasnt so busy and under pressure to build this particular engine it might have lasted, i dropped off the car, flew back home and asked him before i left how long..... he reckoned about 6 weeks to get it back to scratch .... and thats what i gave him.
From what i know and heard the engine was being put in the car the night before i flew back to South africa for steve to pick me up at the air port ...

What a rush i mean the guy promises something, delivers the goods and they werent quite cut out to last the life span intended....

I will try again and speak to him about what we can come up with but i dont think im going to bring my car to sa to be built and toyed with.

ive found some new info that many skyline fans will enjoy about rebuilding a rb26dett and the info comes from a pretty good source.

How i came across this isnt funny though, i was searching for high quality detailed pictures of a tomei oil pump drive assembly as i believe that the assembly is a three colar design as apposed to a two colar like the standard oil pump. The tomei is the best in the world no doubt but the price 🙁

http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php/topic/72928-rb-rebuild/

Now this has some good info and tells it how it is.
Mat also recons that building this engine can be done any where .

Its just a case of learning all the tips and tricks now so thart when its built its 100% .

So i need to get a set of garrett gt 2871r's -10 i think
A i need to get a Nismo twin plate clutch assembly.

Then i will worry about the motor .

I can get a good motor off the yahoo japan auctions for a used Gtr34 motor you will pay roughyl 2500 usd in japan then shipping via container another like 300 usd.

So i have to really think about this and see what options i have.
I will only really start building next year some time closer to september if everything goes to plan but for now i need to research as much info as i can to rebuild as this option seems like the cheapest and easiest, and probably the most logical .
Who is in for a rebuild with me 🙂 ??????

ZZimNismoboy3404 Dec 2010, 20:01

Lol i guess no one is in for a rebuild with me ?
Its ok i will try give it a shot on my own again maybe ?

rregy0505 Dec 2010, 22:35

ZimNismoboy34 wrote:

Lol i guess no one is in for a rebuild with me ?
Its ok i will try give it a shot on my own again maybe ?

Bro try to do it your self. im from Mozambique i have a silvia s13 and here we don't have professional engine builders so im gonna do it my self, i have imported the parts from Australia.

TTobie05 Dec 2010, 22:51

ZimNismoboy34 wrote:

Lol i guess no one is in for a rebuild with me ?
Its ok i will try give it a shot on my own again maybe ?

We are all willing to help you online and awaiting the build pics, so you can ask away if you battle with something.

MMarkS1406 Dec 2010, 09:17

Is there not a guy in joburg that does skylines? I remember reading he was a ex zim, maybe he help you and have a holiday?

ZZimNismoboy3409 Dec 2010, 17:22

That is the guy that is good with skylines and rb26dett engines , but he built my first engine and that failed and he is the gentleman that i have asked about the poll on ?
Maybe any one else cans shed some light on the poll also and say wether i should chase steve and get him to build for me again and what he should pay for ???
Any one please the more info the more points and views the better armed i will be for next time !

aaep88609 Dec 2010, 21:36

get a tunner engine... which will cost like R200k then just slap on the turbo you want... i guess that the only solution now

ZZimNismoboy3405 Jan 2011, 22:46

You mentioned a engine that i can put what ever turbos i want what exactly is that ?>

aaep88605 Jan 2011, 22:58

ZimNismoboy34 wrote:

You mentioned a engine that i can put what ever turbos i want what exactly is that ?>

i mean a RB26 complet bulletproof engine from Tomei or HKS

ssmoothedgp05 Jan 2011, 23:14

I think there are no bulletproof motor's unless you run it full built at like a 100kw.breaking motors is part of the game,sure it sucks the hairy left one but i think its school fees.i broke a 26 before and it went in a glorious way,so i feel your pain.as for steve i think he is a ledgend i mean he has built a 1400hp motor and i have seen it run.just my 2c.wish you all the luck in the world mate.

ZZimNismoboy3406 Jan 2011, 00:27

Im still not sure what im getting where ......
This is a all research at the moment .
As for Bullet proof motors they arent cheap and i think a flight to japan migh be in order ......
I want to fully investigate all the options .
Those bullet proof motors we all speak off are in the region of 25 000usd to 30 000usd for the block and head and sump.
Thats a load of cash infact thats a load of cash fro a high spec motor.
to be frank im looking for power just over standard.
so 350kw maybe a little more is tops.
Bearing mind that if i get a bullet proof motor i still need a clutch and turbos .
hmmmm.......
The think continues any one else know where i can get a second hand nur motoro from ?
Checked on yahoo japan auctions a few motors flying around there some gtr34 motors are as cheap as 2000usd second hand with bad compression would need a rebuild ....

ZZimNismoboy3422 Feb 2011, 23:20

Well everyone this is the year that i have to get this thing right.
And well i have manged to organise some turbos .
Just waiting on the clutch system .
And saving for a brand new engine Nur spec that is.
So i will be postin pics of the build and what i do where etc.
Any one have any ideas on engine.
Should i buy a gtr32 engine a play with that maybe put a gtr33 crank etc and see how she runs ?
Maybe even do a rebuild or two and gain some experience to build my own engine ?

ZZimNismoboy3423 Jun 2011, 23:33

ok i havent posted in a while but here with a update .
I have the parts flowing in left right and center.
Tomei oil pump
Tomei baffle sump
Tomei oil restrictor
Nismo head gasket
Viton valve stem seals
nismo twin plate coppemix clutch
New head

awaiting the purchase of a new
Block
Pistons
Rings
Rods
Bearings
And Crank shaft

Then its play time and will make a new thread for a build of a N1 motor .

DDanielmoderator24 Jun 2011, 07:18

awesome!! Hope you get it sorted.

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