It depends on your turbo and fuelling set on the dyno and what you use for cooling, if you want a fast run on 1 bar it's ok but I won't recommend using it on 1 bar all the time and ofcourse listen for pinging, if that starts stop...very fast.
The more proffesional guy would tell you no....under no "sercumstances"
they are most propably right but I am not professional and I have done it before.... 🙄
thanks man i will rather keep her @0.85 or so then she is strong. stays with a c55 so is that a good car to compare to?
dwayne wrote:
Dislex666 wrote:
yup 1 bar - i'm too lazy to mix stuff to get the octane high enough for highboost 🙂
what fuel are you running. im using 95 can i also lift boost to 1bar curntly 0.8????
Dislex runs 1 bar on 95. I have water/meth but its disconnected at the moment so I might tune mine to run without it for now.
I think my water/meth doesn't work so well because it is firstly not progressive and so there's a smaller band of effectiveness in between too little and too much. The progressive system adjusts water/meth according to boost levels in a gradual fashion.
You can run 95 on most general applications at 1.0bar if the engine/cooling etc is ok. but if your tuner is struggling to get the AFR's/timing/pinging sorted then there are options like octane booster. I've heard a common thing is buying a 3ron or 4ron booster (whichevers the highest one) but then only add half a bottle to a tank petrol.
Running closed loop lamda should also help correcting afr's but I think it its to compensate for other afr factors, not rich/lean fuel, someone know?
what power dif will 0.85 to 1 bar make 3kw?
Do you have A FMIC or a more efficient / higher flow Intercooler?
If not I really wouldn't even run 0.8 bar
no FMIC. cooler i got on is still the side mount but boostong 0.85 .and not droping at all when @ high revs
qewrty wrote:
Running closed loop lamda should also help correcting afr's but I think it its to compensate for other afr factors, not rich/lean fuel, someone know?
From what I've read, one can never make decent power running closed loop... but again only what I've read.
I'm also not so sure how effective the water/meth is at cooling... Was comparing my air temps to ChemCools the otherday, my intercooler runs about 30deg less, but I can't really say this with confidence since I only saw his air temps once, and our our measuring method / sensor location is also different.
Vlade wrote:
qewrty wrote:
Running closed loop lamda should also help correcting afr's but I think it its to compensate for other afr factors, not rich/lean fuel, someone know?
From what I've read, one can never make decent power running closed loop... but again only what I've read.
I'm also not so sure how effective the water/meth is at cooling... Was comparing my air temps to ChemCools the otherday, my intercooler runs about 30deg less, but I can't really say this with confidence since I only saw his air temps once, and our our measuring method / sensor location is also different.
I think water/meth does help and in CC's case is enough but I'm sure there are limits, I don't see CC running 1bar boost for instance.
If I was CC I'd get a small intercooler to help with cooling, esp 4 the next CA. But then again I guess CC = chemical cooling 😛
For aesthetics I'm keeping my water/meth installed though, might just put 100% water in & use it to spray my intercooler, like an STI.
Other than something like Toluene does any1 have suggestions on fuel additives? Don't say gass 🙄
think water/meth does help and in CC's case is enough but I'm sure there are limits, I don't see CC running 1bar boost for instance.
If I was CC I'd get a small intercooler to help with cooling, esp 4 the next CA. But then again I guess CC = chemical cooling
For aesthetics I'm keeping my water/meth installed though, might just put 100% water in & use it to spray my intercooler, like an STI.
Other than something like Toluene does any1 have suggestions on fuel additives? Don't say gass
Yes I do run @ 1 bar. 1.3 Bar is the limit for no intercooler fitted. I dont want to go the route of FMIC. I will however upgrade to twin nozzles. One just after the turbo and the other like the current nozzle location in friont of TB. Then I think and I am optimistic that my temps will be similar or close to what Vlade has mentioned. In other words, the second nozzle will hopefully act in place of FMIC. Okies in America do this with great success.
ChemCool wrote:
think water/meth does help and in CC's case is enough but I'm sure there are limits, I don't see CC running 1bar boost for instance.
If I was CC I'd get a small intercooler to help with cooling, esp 4 the next CA. But then again I guess CC = chemical cooling
For aesthetics I'm keeping my water/meth installed though, might just put 100% water in & use it to spray my intercooler, like an STI.
Other than something like Toluene does any1 have suggestions on fuel additives? Don't say gass
Yes I do run @ 1 bar. 1.3 Bar is the limit for no intercooler fitted. I dont want to go the route of FMIC. I will however upgrade to twin nozzles. One just after the turbo and the other like the current nozzle location in friont of TB. Then I think and I am optimistic that my temps will be similar or close to what Vlade has mentioned. In other words, the second nozzle will hopefully act in place of FMIC. Okies in America do this with great success.
OK 8)
I would still like someone to check out your block when you swap them around. Want to see if any wear and tear is not distributed equally due to water/meth, also want to see if there's rust.
I trust the science behind it but my car sounds funny when the meth kicks in. CC, come for a drive so you can tell me if its similar to yours. Of course caver needs to fix mine first.
From what I've read, one can never make decent power running closed loop... but again only what I've read
I must have done something wrong on Dislex's and Qwerty's cars then as they both run full time closed loop.
I would still like someone to check out your block when you swap them around. Want to see if any wear and tear is not distributed equally due to water/meth, also want to see if there's rust.
No problems, we will get to that stage. But there are already enough evidence available on this issue(via the net). Lately I am only using water(low budget for methanol) and of course then the nozzle is to big for water only. But we will be back on par soon. Just interim situation
Lately I am only using water(low budget for methanol)
What you pay for methanol up there Freddie?? I pay R135.00 for 20l (might be 25l).
R135.00 for 20l
hmmm... R250-00 for 20 liter, delivered at my place.
Maybe you should concider couriers?? Should have told me soon could of sent you some, my dad is driving up on Sunday.
my dad is driving up on Sunday.
Next time then Gary, next time. Thanks. 8) 8) 8) chemcool 😂
He drives up quite often so will keep you posted.
wat is going on these days with this ladder howm were
Also thought this ladder has died a bit, maybe when their cars are fixed (and that includes you vlade) they will start it up again.
My car is up to go but I would prefer it if I had it tuned first, the last standing is Phinx then me then chemcool....
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