Engine Torque Dampener

GGary5731 May 2007, 15:08

Ok I called Gabriel and they can make me up any shock I want. Juts got to give them the stroke and force. Now the stroke is easy but the force is the problem. How much will I need. I would think somewhere aroung 500N. The ones on the back door of a golf are 270N and that makes the door super light. This is not something that can be calculated only measured while at max torque and since I dont have a dyno I cant measure it.

SSokar31 May 2007, 16:06

How much torque do you want to push out?

It would make sense that the shock must be "pushing" the same amount that the engine is "pushing" on it. So I'd say that 500N would be a good bet and leave room for improvement.

GGary5731 May 2007, 16:11

I think 500N is a good bet. I mean if the ones on the back door of a golf are 270N...

How much torque do you want to push out?

It would make sense that the shock must be "pushing" the same amount that the engine is "pushing" on it.

These have no connection at all. Remember a large portion of the motors torque is transmitted through the drive train. Torque is measured in Nm and force in N. In order to compare these two we would need to know the distance from the center of the crank to the mounting of the damper.

SSokar31 May 2007, 16:30

Gary57 wrote:

These have no connection at all. Remember a large portion of the motors torque is transmitted through the drive train. Torque is measured in Nm and force in N. In order to compare these two we would need to know the distance from the center of the crank to the mounting of the damper.

Allrighty then Mr smarty pants, arent you glad you asked us experts for advice or you would never have known what to do....

GGary5701 Jun 2007, 08:14

Allrighty then Mr smarty pants, arent you glad you asked us experts for advice or you would never have known what to do....

Wasnt being cocky just correcting your mistake, so you know for next time.

SSokar01 Jun 2007, 09:15

No stress dude! You seem to be quite clued up, thanks for the info.

P.S. I'm sure the dampener will be about a meter from, the center of the crank, might be a bit of a thumb suck, but I'm sure 500N will be enough then!

GGary5701 Jun 2007, 09:20

Just a bit worried because if 500N is too much then it will act like a solid brace and transmit virations.

SSokar01 Jun 2007, 09:25

Here's a shot in the dark, can Gabriel make you an ajustable shock to any spec?

GGary5701 Jun 2007, 09:29

Here's a shot in the dark, can Gabriel make you an ajustable shock to any spec?

Good shot because Gabriel in JHB can. They will make you up a shock that is capable of 500N and add gas or remove it to get the required force rating. SO you can get a 500N one, if you find it is too stiff take it back any they will make softer. Gabriel in DBN however cannot, they say there isnt a demand.

vveecee01 Jun 2007, 09:42

hey knobs - i'm back and i see there is a shitload to read!!!

i was thinking that you should just go and buy the nismo engine mounts!!! i used to have an engine that moved hectically side to side under acc/dec, and so i bought new tight uprated mounts.

now i have an engine that just sits there and purrs sweetly!!! and does not move at all like it used to. was a very very good mod.

completely happy with those mounts - and i want a gearbox mount next!

GGary5701 Jun 2007, 09:54

At nearly R2000 for the Nismo engine mounts I would rather go with a dampener and some TIG welded laser cut steel. Will only cost a quarter of the Nismo engine mounts.

vveecee01 Jun 2007, 11:02

what are you talking about R2000??? is that how much they are now???

mine were 1200! but it was a while ago!

GGary5701 Jun 2007, 11:14

R1980 for both.

vveecee01 Jun 2007, 11:15

who's prices?

last time i checked it was about 200-250 dollars for a set of 3. thats the two engine and one gearbox mount!

GGary5701 Jun 2007, 11:19

From Rezlo, only place I would know where to get them from.

vveecee01 Jun 2007, 13:46

also scroll down to check out the prices on most suspension parts for our vehicles!!!

you may be very interested in the nismo mounts prices!

GGary5701 Jun 2007, 13:46

Can get tham 69$ but its the shipping thats the problem.

VVladeadmin01 Jun 2007, 13:54

Yeahs shipping works you out just as much as the product...

My advice... go to a spares place ask them if you can go to the back and look at boot shocks... find a small one that looks that size then build it your self...

vveecee01 Jun 2007, 14:03

Vlade wrote:

My advice... go to a spares place ask them if you can go to the back and look at boot shocks... find a small one that looks that size then build it your self...

hillbilly!

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