http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/id/2470/pageid/4489/formula-drift-2012-rules.aspx
Check this site its quite informative
But remember the best school is trial and error.
Drifting Suspension and other tricks
thx for the input guys, I would love for diff clases, But i agree, untill we have 100+ drifters per track, that wont work, would be awesome to compete in both, with a full blown drifter, and a street legal drifter though!
Stephen, as for the locked diff vs a decent diff, i cannot say a decent 1.5 or 2 way diff compared to a locked welded diff is a bad or good thing, as i havent felt what a decent diff feels like, but then again, i cannot justify the price of a decent diff, for me its just doesnt make sence, I do not use my car anywhere close to a road or a track, only drifting, so it works for my application.
as for what drifting is for me, I love the art, Its a sport totally on its own, I do not see that it needs to be put in the same basket as "any other motorsport".
Its our sport to promote and grow, i can not accept the fact that anyone has a say as a single person, this is a sport that can be changed as drivers, if all the drivers will join in this feeling is another matter completely....
A organization that "host" an event, like MSA and WOMZA, Is only there to promote it and Make sure it runs like its supposed to run, Its like a country's Government, its not there to make rules as they please,it is there to manage everything for the good of the country.same for drifting, is it for spectators and so on,or is it for the good of the sport? I believe that the drivers(that is the sport) can have the final say, Why must we do a sport that costs a small fortune for others peoples gain? that is exactly not like a sport should be about, I do not know if the Drivers from other areas will know about our problems in Guateng, But we are in situation that some off the tracks is being sett up for Spectators pleasure, not drivers pleasure, So then it becomes a monopely effect...
Is the sport being compromised for money, or for the sport?
And i personally think thats where drifting in SA, as well as across the world is heading towards is for Money and power, In witch case i Am very sad to see an art form of this magnificent is going down to that.
Why cant we just do it for the love of going sideways and to control the uncontrollable? as the Japs are still doing?
Now the last question, Are we going to allow that? or are we going to let them walk all over us? I personally wish we could all stand together as a drifting Community and family to stop such things from happening....It would be a sad day indeed if we lose the sport for what it is, Sports, and not financial gain.
Just my 2c, or is that 20c?
Well now its become a "Whats wrong with Drifting" tread, And not a Suspension and tricks tread 😛
And for the tracks, There is roamers that the busy with a track in the south of jhb, And i Also heard of dez's Track, It remains to be seen, but would be awesome to see that happen!
is -10 too much caster?
DriftZ wrote:
is -10 too much caster?
LOL
@ P3g4sus
It is important to remember that no body wants drifting to be controlled by money but without money there is nothing to drift on.
no tracks no roads no tires.
You are more than welcome to phone me regarding the diff and why I recomend it so strongly.
will pm you my number if you want.
"no roads"
Are you kidding ?? 😉 😉 😀
So anyone have any more tips?
im still interested in the whole 'soft' suspension setup.. anyone with knowledge care to elaborate?
like .. soft on the rear only? or front? How soft? what spring presets - F / R ?...
Oky Im no Expert, but will share what I know.
The softer Suspension is meant for the car to Squat down under Acceleration, This is firstly for your fastest possible speed to the first corner, Secondly, When you are on the power in the middle of a drift, and you lift off, The Suspension will Expand giving the car more Momentum, The Japs call it "The Fly"
The suspension must be hard, but soft enough at the back, But underbraking the nose must not dive down too much, it must be ably to Dive a little for the weight transfer.
I also heard that you need an anti roll bar at the front, but not at the back.
I have done some research for more steering lock, there is some hectic mods you can make to get lekker lock, for very cheap!
NO SWAY BAR AT THE REAR.. what ?! wow thats news to me. my setup is the wrong way around then 🙁
I can understand the "fly" .. after revving the kak out of it near the end of a corner you lift off the gas to let the tyres bite making the car jump / launch too the next corner ... but are you saying the front suspension should be setup actually stiffer than the rear to do this?
If you guys just took a drive to the end of Dez'z drag strip, you would have seen the "Ebisu" circuit, its all dug out, we drove it in a bakkie as its all sand currently, it is MENTAL!
dialate wrote:
If you guys just took a drive to the end of Dez'z drag strip, you would have seen the "Ebisu" circuit, its all dug out, we drove it in a bakkie as its all sand currently, it is MENTAL!
saw it 😛
Going to news big powers to carry the drift up and around the hill, that's for sure!!
News - need
Big powers - big Balls
An update from me on my current suspension setup which performed brilliantly last night on the Kaihatsu S14 Silvia.
Coilovers: BC BR-RH 8KG Front 6KG Rear
Arms: Stock lower arms, adjustable 3 arm kit (per side) at rear and caster arms at front.
ARB: Stock Anti Roll Bars front and rear
Wheels/Tyres: Front: 17" 9J ET-5 225/45/17 - Rear: 17" ET15 225/45/17 or 235/45/17 (width of wheel varies depending on which set but I tend to stay with the same tyre size, 225's preffered)
Settings:
Ride height difference: 1.5cm lower at rear than the front, might go a little higher in the front for the next time for more grip at rear.
Front:
-4 degree Camber
0.1 Toe out
7.2 degree Castor
10 clicks from soft on the damper
Rear:
-0.3 degree Camber
0 toe
20 clicks from soft on the damper
This setup was faultless last night! The car was an entirely different car and performed like never before. Also gave me so much more confidence in the car to throw it in VERY hard.
DriftZ wrote:
Big powers - big Balls
and able to switch off your brain to all what if quiestions!!!
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