Help - Waterpump problems!

MMax My Ride14 Feb 2007, 09:03

Guys please help me out, yesterday as I got into the yard, I heard something sound like it's boiling, when I opened the bonnet I could see the water literally boiling in the water bottle, and when I pulled out the oil dipstick I could see the oil was also bloody hot.....

Now this morning I checked the water level and it was completely empty even in the radiator....so I filled it up and started the car, that's when I noticed water leaking from the front of the engine, at the bottom near the pulleys, could that be the waterpump?.....and if it is, what else could've gone?....
and if I replace the waterpump what else must I replace?

and how would you know if the head gasket is gone?

please help.....

Thanks..........the best possible answers will get a max cap....

CCharl14 Feb 2007, 09:12

HaHa. window u should have given something out aswell when asking about your pansy wagon. 😂

VVladeadmin14 Feb 2007, 09:29

SX's are prone to overheating...

Ummm I haven't had overheating problems from the waterpump but rather from my fan's not switching on or my slightly blocked radiator (which is common)

The Head Gasket can be blown if
* When you open up your radiator... you will see oil/water mix or foam.
* Compression lost - car might sound if its running on 3 cylinders
* Oil or water leaking from the side of the block

I'd say try flushing your water system it might just be a blockage, keep an eye on the water temps from then on, if it continues, i'll say have a look at the water pump. If you turn it by hand you should hear it splashing the water and so forth... if it sounds like nothing is happening then open it up and check it out.

PPhinx14 Feb 2007, 09:35

I luckily have never had an overheating problem until my water pump went in JHB traffic.

Under the OEM water pump you will see a little breather hole, thats where my car pissed all the water out. Basically the seal had gone.

I would recommend finding the source of the leak before buying any parts

I say its the water-pump

It R2200 for an OEM pump from nissan

vveecee14 Feb 2007, 12:26

head gasket blown can also sometimes be seen by "mayonnaise" under the oil cap.

exactly the opposite of what vlade said about checking the radiator cap. check the oil cap too. the symptoms can appear at both places AFAIK.

its a whitish milky substance that shouldnt be there!!! it happens when the oil and water mix!!!!

and keep an eye on that water temp gauge - if its starts creeping above half, then react quickly so you dont overheat the engine!!!

wwidowmaker14 Feb 2007, 13:40

not really all that much that can go wrong with the simple waterpump (except for the bearings)
do you still have the viscous clutch fan or electric?
if viscous - you still have the plastic shroud around the fan? makes a BIG difference when removed

bought myself a ca18de waterpump (box shaped 1600 sentra) from a "taxi shop" for R100 + VAT (brand new) it actually looked better (sturdier) than the one that came out

unless yours has metal fatigue - mine had a few spots where the metal went thin, so can probably leak after a while

VVladeadmin14 Feb 2007, 14:09

veecee wrote:

head gasket blown can also sometimes be seen by "mayonnaise" under the oil cap.

exactly the opposite of what vlade said about checking the radiator cap. check the oil cap too. the symptoms can appear at both places AFAIK.

Forgot about that one 😂

CChemCooladmin14 Feb 2007, 15:14

Forgot about that one

Vlade and VeeCee, we understand when you two people miss or forget something. Not to worry. You to clever okies keep us going man. 8) 8)

wwidowmaker14 Feb 2007, 16:00

now that is sweet

🙄

vveecee14 Feb 2007, 16:12

ChemCool wrote:

Forgot about that one

Vlade and VeeCee, we understand when you two people miss or forget something. Not to worry. You to clever okies keep us going man. 8) 8)

widowmaker wrote:

now that is sweet - (and who is this ChemCool really?)

i think he is a girl!!!

CChemCooladmin14 Feb 2007, 16:17

i think he is a girl!!!

So wont you send me a valentine then?

vveecee14 Feb 2007, 16:19

ChemCool wrote:

i think he is a girl!!!

So wont you send me a valentine then?

nah - for a girl, you're not very good looking!!!!

but how about a FPR for valentine's???

CChemCooladmin14 Feb 2007, 16:21

but how about a FPR for valentine's???

OK, OK ek gee op. 😮

vveecee14 Feb 2007, 16:27

ChemCool wrote:

but how about a FPR for valentine's???

OK, OK ek gee op. 😮

lol - why so soon!!!

TTobyadmin15 Feb 2007, 07:08

It could also be a radiator pipe UNDERNEATH the throttle boddy. Mine developed a hole, and lots of water was dripping down the side of the engine and down to the sump - everyone thought it was the water pump, but no, it was a radiator hose. Please inspect the engine carefully before making any dreaded assumptions - we all like to assume the worst, for some or other odd reason 😕 The radiator hose I'm refering to is part of a "T" piece that sits underneath the pipe that goes to the thermostat from the bottom of the radiator (I think, I'm trying to visualise this - I just remember that it wasn't possible to look directly at the pipe, you had to move the radiator pipe out of the way).

When I blew my head gasket, the hole was so tiny that is displayed NONE of the symptoms the guys described above. So I assumed that I hadn't blown the gasket, but the water still kept overheating! Here's another test to try: when the engine is cool, open the radiator cap, then fill to the top with water. Now get someone to rev the engine to say 3000rpm. If the water starts gushing out of the top, then your head gasket is blown. Also if you're driving around and when the engine is warm, you feel the radiator pipes - if they are STIFF from pressure, then most likely your head gasket is gone.

As a simple "indian" fix for this, you can mix a couple of tablespoons of turmeric powder (the yellow powder used for cooking curries) into a jug of water, and gooi that into the radiator - the powder acts as a very good stop-leak 🙂

vveecee15 Feb 2007, 10:10

Toby wrote:

As a simple "indian" fix for this, you can mix a couple of tablespoons of turmeric powder (the yellow powder used for cooking curries) into a jug of water, and gooi that into the radiator - the powder acts as a very good stop-leak 🙂

WTF toby??? you serious??? my gawd, i actually only use that stuff in the kitchen, until now!!!!

i want yellow water in my sx!!!!

and MAX - toby is right. there is a veritable rats nest of water and air pipes underneath those manifolds. i would say go to rezlo.com, and find the links to the sx ca18det manual. then check all of those hoses. ppl tend to forget about them, and its a very viable option. remember they are at least a decade old!!!!

chemcool, toby - thats why i threw out all that crap!!!!

wwidowmaker15 Feb 2007, 10:22

i have heard about that quickfix from a dude at work before
but on the other hand, the other dude at work here put shoe polish in a hole in his leg (and almost lost it), so i wasnt too sold on all their funny quickfixes
also, those feeder pipes to the hairdrier are thin - i'll be nervous about clogging...

TTobyadmin16 Feb 2007, 06:52

Yup! Too much of that stuff will definitely cause clogging! But still, very tempting to fix a slightly blown head gasket with a few teaspoons of turmeric powder 🙂 I've seen it done and work on a Honda ballade.

wwidowmaker16 Feb 2007, 08:43

if your car is smoking then you must put it in the petrol tank

maybe it will make yellow smoke that smells funky

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