Gary57 wrote:
It is probably 12DBTDC.
Just a silly question but when you fitted the mines chip did you check the timing on the motor and correspond it to what the ECU said it should be.
think that is a bloody good question actually
Bearings Knocking on heaven's Door
LOL....
The guys quiet knowledgeable it was the base timing the map was set for and agreed upon on our pump ,There is nothing wrong with the tune,
The new HG was ordered to drop compression, just for a little reliability.
The combustion chamber was polished to drop the detonation threshold.
I change oil every 3000km my cars water is changed every 5000km (Why because then the car needs work again 😕 ).
It just pisses me off, I'm getting sick of spending this amount of money to just stare at the car on jack stands, I'm starting to not enjoy owning the car because I cant drive it and when I drive it I question every noise, then it breaks down two weeks later.
Whats really upsetting me is I paid through my back pocket, living like a hermit just to have enough cash to keep it running (Even begging for favors, Hennie thanks again) , Doing all the work myself because I cant afford taking it anywhere. So far its cost me around, no "Shit" !!! between R 1500 - 3500 a mouth over and above my car payment and insurance (Ask sokar if you don't beleave me ) just to keep the car on the road.
And I still cant drive it, I was told it was a problematic car but this is not funny anymore, I just want to enjoy my car for 6 months at least before having to spend money on it,
On that point, my feeling is that if people fiddle with the standard car and add performance parts, increase boost, etc. you WILL pay through your butt to keep the car running. If you leave it standard and enjoy it for what it is, you can have 6 months of driving, no problem. My 2c.
Not trying to start a fight!! 😂 And no offense!! If you like to do up your car, by all means. All I'm saying is that it's gonna be expensive.
Agreed, Toby...
But Stock motors give issues aswell
Thats why I did it properly this time round, I also got fed up. Driving to work and back on my bicycle for six months was not really what I call fun.
I know I would screw something up if I do it myself, well I still screw stuff up when I fiddle, so I saved up for quit a while. I have been a member here for over a year and only managed to go to a meeting recently.
I know first hand this car squeezes each cent out of you.
Buying an S13 with a car loan is not a good idea, I saved up for a year to buy it cash still ended up spending a wad of cash on top of that to fix stuff, still not having enough. Having a second car helps as well, that was my Idea untill I crashed my other car, I don't drink jagger bombs no more.
Well thats my rant and quadruple digits worth of lessons spent in Rands.
PS mine was stock and stuff kept breaking
definitely not pointing at anyone, but i have said it before
"my daddy sed that the highly qualified and clever engineers at the factory designed the cars/engines so that all the little parts work together optimally but you will always have some backyard dudes with 120-piece toolkits from Hyperama and a drill thinking that they can do better"
still not pointing, just concurring
maybe im just jealous cozof why i cant afford mods 😢
imagine those people changing the little cogs in their grandfather clock to high performance bigger titanium units to make the hours fly past faster... they are just making death come quicker.
now that statement has even ME wondering what was in that last cigarette...
maybe i must go play solitaire instead before i tell draco his mother is quite nice 😂 (note to self : mmm kentucky...)
Ero_sennin wrote:
Having a second car helps as well,
well, yeah, unless your second car happens to be another s13 :200sx_oops:
by the way WHERE THE HELL IS WOOHAAAAARRGH?
He sold his car to Jinx...
BTW, yes, stock cars break too 'cos they're old. Hence me spending wads of cash to get it back up and running, but I'm trying to fiddle as little as possible. Maybe one day it will run reliably, and THEN I can start pointing fingers 😂
Draco wrote:
Phinx you know what gets me....you ran low boost, you ran normal timing, did some flow work and all, but you had some serios power, something somewhere does not click, how do you get a bearing knock with a less than stock boost, normal timing and better flow and and....it does not make sence, oil was good and all.....that begs the quiestion....was your timing and compression normal, was the boost actually 0.5.......
Phinx as for you getting pissed....I understand, too much is too much.
Thing is when you rebuild a motor, the engineers don't always do a precise job. I've seen that a few times already. If there was a mistake made there then nothing will survive it. Not even low boost and low compression.
Some bearings you can't even touch the surface with your fingers and it causes crap.
maybe i must go play solitaire instead before i tell draco his mother is quite nice
😉 Good idea...I might just take offence and rip ur head off and piss down your throat 😂
The new HG was ordered to drop compression, just for a little reliability.
But I thought you were after more power, what did you drop it too??
"my daddy sed that the highly qualified and clever engineers at the factory designed the cars/engines so that all the little parts work together optimally but you will always have some backyard dudes with 120-piece toolkits from Hyperama and a drill thinking that they can do better"
My dad says the same thing, if you fiddle it will break (I get this everytime something goes wrong), and he is a mechanic for 30 odd years now.
Dont want to start this arguement again but leave it to the pros. I understand if you cant afford them but if you can send it in to a mechanic to work on (dont mean to be a prick now but how many of the guys here have met this same fate??). I am a qualified mechanic and still I call on my dad for his opinion, why because he is better than me, experiance counts here guys.
AKA wonderboy...I am sceptic hear, I still ask, how do you make your power if the boost is down, the timing is down and the compression is dropped.....I am sorry but it does not make sence....sometning was doen to make your power and that might have lead to the current situation.
AKA wonderboy...I am sceptic hear, I still ask, how do you make your power if the boost is down, the timing is down and the compression is dropped.....I am sorry but it does not make sence....sometning was doen to make your power and that might have lead to the current situation.
He has done alot of flow work, that motor will breathe beautifully, Im jealous.
Gary57 wrote:
AKA wonderboy...I am sceptic hear, I still ask, how do you make your power if the boost is down, the timing is down and the compression is dropped.....I am sorry but it does not make sence....sometning was doen to make your power and that might have lead to the current situation.
He has done alot of flow work, that motor will breathe beautifully, Im jealous.
Um Gary....the flow job was done after the power figure he shows, he would make even more now....but still could you make 20kw on the wheels with a flow job 🙄
True Draco but then he did just say that the HG was put now to lower compression. I know he had the CA18DE cam in there (so will I on Saturday, will post the difference). To me the motor has a turbo so use it, boost the bladdy thing to 1Bar, problem is the clutch gives up at a bar 😢 .
Draco wrote:
I am sorry but it does not make sence....
It will make perfect sense one day once you realize what boost really is...
Sokar.... 😂 😂 😂 😂
Gary - Cant wait for the Dyno , Will be very interesting . I really interested
Heard its around 7RWKW
And don't get me started on tuners, because thats a big can of worms. 😕
R20-000 rand later and in the shit after someone has touch my car is not where I want to be
I have access to almost 60 years of experience about 40 years being race everything from Rotor to V8's and even they are surprised because they know the amount of time,Money and parts I use.
I have researched every modification made to may car and maximized its return with the next mod.
Boost: 8 Psi (0,55 Bar)
Timing: 12 BTDC
Comp: 8.3 est (Commetic)
148 RWKW was before the cam and other mods....
oh i laughed all the way through this ranting and raving.
phinx wanting to sell his sx (is this the same phinx i know!!!).
toby saying that only stock motors dont give shit. (how long did your stock motor last tobles??? 😉 😉 😉 )
gary saying that you should leave to the pro's. (like masturbator???)
widomaker saying that draco's mom is nice (ess good good good ees good ees nice!! (harcore dude - i wouldn't F___K so much with draco - i dont think he was kidding about pissing down your throat!!!).
and saying that fiddling makes things break???(sometimes a good fiddle makes things all better!!!)
sokare - when you find out what boost is, can you explain it to my stoopid engine so that we can be friends again???
and did someone say flowjob - damn i almost misread that.
😉
Hehe nice summary there, V 🙂
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