Project C - Also not 56k friendly!

vveecee14 Jun 2007, 11:02

ask your engineer for his suppliers number!

DDracomoderator14 Jun 2007, 11:11

Just a shot in the dark.....if your prassure plate and clutch and stuff aren't well balanced on the fly wheel won't that cause a vibration that will make you crank do this to the bearings.....?

VVladeadmin14 Jun 2007, 11:20

Yip it can 🙂 but not sure its the case here, we havn't touched the flywheel/clutch stuff.
Also one can normally feel it when its unbalanced, there is a vibration right through the RPM range, I didn't align my flywheel with the alignment pin on my first engine, took it to a clutch place so they can sort the vibration and replace the worn clutch...
I asked the dude what caused the vibration he told me some idiot didn't align the flywheel to the alignment pin... 😳 😳 😳 School Fees 😉

vveecee14 Jun 2007, 11:37

Vlade wrote:

Yip it can 🙂 but not sure its the case here, we havn't touched the flywheel/clutch stuff.
Also one can normally feel it when its unbalanced, there is a vibration right through the RPM range, I didn't align my flywheel with the alignment pin on my first engine, took it to a clutch place so they can sort the vibration and replace the worn clutch...
I asked the dude what caused the vibration he told me some idiot didn't align the flywheel to the alignment pin... 😳 😳 😳 School Fees 😉

so you guys didnt send the engine in for balancing then???

i spoke to toby about this, and its not expensive. maybe if you have everything out again, send it in before its reassembled!!!

i think my balancing and weight matching (blueprinting i think its called) cost in the region of 500 bucks!

they asked me for pistons, rods, crank, flywheel, clutch assembly, crank pulley, etc. and it was a day turnaround!!!

i think if its possible now, you guys should do it!

VVladeadmin14 Jun 2007, 13:51

I don't really think its needed only the pistons is new in the whole assembly, the pistons was balanced.

GGary5714 Jun 2007, 13:52

I would bet that they over machined the crank.

VVladeadmin14 Jun 2007, 14:35

my guess too

TThe Calibrator14 Jun 2007, 21:24

The big end thats shiny on the one side is from the journal being taperd.
lemme guess it wasnt Allan Y Brink?

those guys mike every bearing and every journal no no platigauge or guesswork.

Plastigauge is the name of the product and its only a guide of whats happening.
I normally only use it to double check that the bearings are the right size for the journal.

VVladeadmin15 Jun 2007, 07:05

What would you say about the rod ones, the wear pattern there looks weird to me

GGary5715 Jun 2007, 08:35

Hows the oil pressure??

TTobyadmin15 Jun 2007, 08:37

Don't have an oil pressure guage, but the oil light was off 🙂 I have no reason to suspect any problems with oil pressure, but I can't guarantee that it was fine either.

GGary5715 Jun 2007, 08:46

Maybe the oil pressure was low and that cause you to run the bearings??

jjohansx15 Jun 2007, 09:37

To quote Mr Calibrator.... take the parts to Allan Y Brink in Pretoria. They will give you the correct advice and fix whatever the problem is. 😉

Looks like the bearings size is incorrect, too small and possibly some contaminants in the oil feed. My 0.02 Zim$ 😉

TTobyadmin15 Jun 2007, 10:54

Gary57 wrote:

Maybe the oil pressure was low and that cause you to run the bearings??

So do you think that I ran bearings there? I figured there's a bit of wear from maybe an incorrect sized bearing or badly grinded crank. I'm windering if I continued to run the engine, would it wear more, or settle?

GGary5715 Jun 2007, 10:59

They will settle but only to distroy the crank. The white metal coating is gone, so they throw away.

I am not sure if you ran the bearings because of incorrect sizing of the crank only a "mic" will tell. Maybe go buy one, you can get a decent one for around R300, always nice to have.

TTobyadmin15 Jun 2007, 12:47

What's a mic?

GGary5715 Jun 2007, 12:49

Micrometer. A tool used to gauge objects, like a vernier but more accurate.

qqewrty15 Jun 2007, 13:40

Damn Toby, didn't know you were also having some issues 🙁

TTobyadmin15 Jun 2007, 14:36

Yep, looks like you have to even grind the crank yourself, can't trust other to do that for you 😈

VVladeadmin09 Jul 2007, 10:13

Got the crank back, got bearings, got a new pulley... 😀

Crank was inspected by Allen Y, they said it was fine, they couldn't check clearances since I couldn't supply any rods, but that should be fine too.

He said I must just double check my torque settings and try again, they were not at all surprised by bearing wear and said that was so little it doesn't matter... 😮 Coming from a seasoned professional I guess I'd take his word for it

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