Blowoff vs dump valve

Well i did a wikipedia search and it said a blowoff valve is not the same as a dump valve. But saying that, whats the best one to fit. whats the pros and cons. Because i wanted to fit a dumpvalve but now i want to know which one to fit.

One that doesn't leak and one that won't seez up on you...

I got one of those HKS nockoffs does the job...

Downside on standard management... I hear some say you will get slight over fueling when it dumps and a slight decrease in fuel economy... but I can't comment I don't have std management.

Upside it sounds cool and it increases the life of the turbo also helps the spooling...

If I could afford it I would stick to a name brand, Turbosmart, HKS, Greddy... but its a bit difficult to pay R2000 for a BOV

There are two different types of thses valves.
The recirculating type which is what is fitted as std to all factory turbo cars. This is the onkly type to run if your car is eqiupped with a maf sensor.

Then you have BOV or Blow Off Valves these vent to atmosphere and make that boy racer sound.
If you fit one of these to a maf equipped vehicle it richens the mixture up when cruising as you are throwing away some the air that the maf has measured.

The way I inderstand it, the blow-off valve (BOV) refers to the valve that keeps your turbo from over-boosting. This is the one that keeps standard boost at 0.6bar, etc. (the one with the actuator arm). It's internal to some turbos, others need an external one. The SX has it internal to the turbo.

The dump valve is the one you fit onto the intake side to vent out boost when you close the throttle (lift off). Read my driving techniques article and you'll realise that boost is a terrible thing to waste...

Toby wrote:

The way I inderstand it, the blow-off valve (BOV) refers to the valve that keeps your turbo from over-boosting. This is the one that keeps standard boost at 0.6bar, etc. (the one with the actuator arm). It's internal to some turbos, others need an external one. The SX has it internal to the turbo.

The dump valve is the one you fit onto the intake side to vent out boost when you close the throttle (lift off). Read my driving techniques article and you'll realise that boost is a terrible thing to waste...

Actually ur confused with a wastegate Toby.

As far as im concerned a BOV and dumpvalve is the same thing just diffrent names. I prefer BOV as dumpvalve sounds danville.

Toby wrote:

The way I inderstand it, the blow-off valve (BOV) refers to the valve that keeps your turbo from over-boosting. This is the one that keeps standard boost at 0.6bar, etc. (the one with the actuator arm). It's internal to some turbos, others need an external one. The SX has it internal to the turbo.

The dump valve is the one you fit onto the intake side to vent out boost when you close the throttle (lift off). Read my driving techniques article and you'll realise that boost is a terrible thing to waste...

sorry toby - this time you are incorrect!!!

dumpvalve and blow-off valve are the same thing. its two different terms coined for the same concept. they both release pressure built up when the throttle is closed and the turbo is still compressing air. calibrator mentioned the options for where the excess air is released to (atmosphere or intake manifold), but essentially thats what they do.

the control of boost function (i.e keeping the turbo at 0.6 bar) that you mentioned is controlled by a valve of similar design but with a completely different term used to describe it. its called a wastegate, and its well known worldwide by this term. once the desired air pressure is reached on the compressor side of the turbo, the wastegate valve (which is connected in line on the exhaust side of the turbo) opens to allow the exhaust gases to bypass the exhaust wheel of the turbo and go directly out of the exhaust pipe. it essentially "wastes" those exhaust gases that would normally cause the boost to increase, by directing away from the exhaust wheel and out of the exhaust usually at the rear of the car!!!

this doesnt mean you're completely wrong though, because a wastegate is commonly found in one of two orientations. most "smaller" or OEM turbos are designed with an internal wastegate that is an integral part of the exhaust housing of the turbo. most of the "larger" or high performance turbos are designed to have a separate (and more controllable) wastegate mounted on its own perch on the exhaust manifold. these are usually much larger valves associated with high output motors, and were designed because internal wastegates couldn't be produced large enough to handle those amounts of waste generated by such motors!

kapish!!!???!!!! 8) 8) 8)

dammit daniel,

you posted 10 minutes before me because it took me 10 friggin minutes to type all that out nicely!!!

but my sentiments exactly. damn danville dumpvalves!!! 😂 😂 😂

Oh hehe, ok. I always thought BOV = wastegate. My bad 🙂

So, If I want to fit a BOV to my car SX(stock). Can I just fit it or do I need to chip it before I can fit the BOV and I dont think I want a re-circ one.

Any advise....? :arrow:

What happens when you change gears and it runs rich...any disadvantages to this?

You will momentarily run rich which might leave unburt fuel entering the turbo and exploding in the exhaust housing, not very good for the turbo.

Some people refer to the wastegate as bumpvalve, might be where the confusion lies. There's also the pop-off valve, as used on earlier racecars, it opens up when the boost are too high, it was used on indy cars to prevent overboosting and cheating.

Ja i also have a std sx. Wha must i do?

Fix the things that will kill you like the suspension and brakes leave the engine alone untill you will not be killed.

Fix the things that will kill you like the suspension and brakes leave the engine alone untill you will not be killed.

:200sx_punk: Not a truer word spoken :200sx_punk:

Ok im hijacking but, Is the std brakes on the sx ok? I know the suspension isnt that good bt at the moment i dont have the cash for coilovers.

Riekert wrote:

Ok im hijacking but, Is the std brakes on the sx ok? I know the suspension isnt that good bt at the moment i dont have the cash for coilovers.

Try this....drive your car to about 230km/h then brake hard go to an offramp and try and brake some more.... 😮 Please don't do that, the answer is the sx brakes badly....it will get you in big trouble or dead...

As for the coilovers, are you going to drift....drag regularly....if no...don't waste your money...if you are...spend the money and make it safer for yourself.

Try this....drive your car to about 230km/h then brake hard go to an offramp and try and brake some more.... Shocked Please don't do that, the answer is the sx brakes badly....it will get you in big trouble or dead...

I beg to differ , if you drive the car like a normal person the brakes are fine.
I will agree that on a track the stock units will "fad" early but how many times do you see serious track time.

In normal day to day traffic ,Driving like a normal person the car can more then handle the abuse.

It is true, drive it 60 or 120 and brake slowly, should be fine unless you have to brake hard a few times....o boy even a normal person will learn....

my brakes have been alright in all forms of driving that i've done with the car.

i really am not sure what all the worldwide whining is about.

these cars stop well, not brilliantly, but not poorly either.

it concerns me that the guys who are experiencing brake fade on the streets are driving like complete fukwits, and thus endangering themselves and those around them.

so i agree with phinx on this.

but if you are going to increase your engine output, you do need to make the appropriate suspension and brake improvements to match your new power improvements. i've concentrated on those safety aspects before improving the engine, and i think everyone should do this too!

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