Throttle Body

mmario_200sx25 Apr 2008, 10:42

Ive been looking around for the VQ45 nissan infinity throttle Body.

Do any of you know a place that might sell them?

I do have one guy that sells those motors but Im trying to convince to sell the throttle body.

Will be doing a experiment on putting it on my car... 😈

SSokar25 Apr 2008, 10:54

Eish, you really read alot on the internet dont you........

Not alot of nissans locally had a VQ45, I think maybe 1 patrol did, importers wont sell you one off a working motor, sometimes you're lucky and they have a wrecked motor.

NOW.... for my 2c.....

The 80 - 90mm of a throttle body that size will be too much for a stockish setup, yes it will flow more at high rpm and you probably will gain a few KW, but you will loose alot of low down torque as the air will be stalling at low RPM and your throttle response will be terrible too.

THE ALTERNATIVE
As I'm such a helpful guy here is a nice alternative, the SR20DE throttle body will also bolt right on, you just need to extend a shaft for the TPS, a mate did this with a pipe and some pratley steel, this gives a nice compromise between the 2, also you can see if you can find a KA24 throttle body off a 2.4 hardbody, that fits too but I think its smaller than the SR one.

mmario_200sx25 Apr 2008, 11:00

Thanx Sokar,

Also thought of going that route. Sitting with the problem, that the car is quite standard now. And I dont want too much at the moment.

But I want to start with the head setup at home, seing that I have a complete head, turbo, intake and everything at home. So while Im doing a daily driver I wanna get the head sorted.

Was thinking of putting the KA24de TB on my car for now. Very good advice..... Thanx

Building a motor on the side that I will pop in when its a track car.... Any advice would be great. Looking for loads of torque....

SSokar25 Apr 2008, 11:13

Torque comes from the bang, kw come from the "breathing"

For more torque look at some regrind intake cams with more lift, the more air in the bigger the bang, also a electronic boost controller is pricey but it makes a huge diff with torque lemme find a dyno graph for you.

mmario_200sx25 Apr 2008, 11:16

I want to do the cams soon, but im unsure on what cams size I should go.

What do you think?

Malcolm and my dad told me 276cams will work well, but it sounds a bit wild to me! And wont that shift your powerband up the rev range?

SSokar25 Apr 2008, 11:17

A dyno of Phinx's car, check that flat torque curve with a boost controller

vveecee25 Apr 2008, 11:18

264 with more lift is a really good mod for keep it streetable but still making a difference.

SSokar25 Apr 2008, 11:21

mario_200sx wrote:

I want to do the cams soon, but im unsure on what cams size I should go.

What do you think?

Malcolm and my dad told me 276cams will work well, but it sounds a bit wild to me! And wont that shift your powerband up the rev range?

Yip, look rather at your lift than the duration, you can go with a better duration, but not too wild.

mmario_200sx25 Apr 2008, 11:21

Soz for sounding stupid here, but how does the e-boost controller help with torque?

mmario_200sx25 Apr 2008, 11:22

ok, what type of lift should I look at?

vveecee25 Apr 2008, 11:23

dont forget that if you go too wild on the cams, then you will probably have to upgrade your valve springs!

i would keep it around 264, but go for as much lift as is possible without breaking anything or creating valve/piston "interface".

mmario_200sx25 Apr 2008, 11:24

Veecee: Do you know what type of lift you get out of a 264cam or is do you specify that when you get the cams done?

GGary5725 Apr 2008, 11:30

Torque comes from the bang, kw come from the "breathing"

Best quote sa far, well said Sokar.

i am in the same boat as you Mario, I am also looking for a SR20 TB.

vveecee25 Apr 2008, 11:32

if you going to get your stock cams reground or you are going to get billets with custom profiling, then you will tell them exactly what you want.

if you are buying aftermarket cams, then you take what you get... although there are lots of choices out there.

it would be best to take the head, with the valves, to the engineers who are going to do the work. that way they can measure the biggest lift you can do safely!

search the net for the stock specs on lift for the ca18det, then you should be able to gauge from there! its usually only a few mm's more than stock!

mmario_200sx25 Apr 2008, 11:34

Thank VC, will be using stock ones I have spare.

Will take the complete head in. 😉

GGary5725 Apr 2008, 11:35

Max lift and stock lifters is 8.1mm, you need solid lifters if you want to go bigger.

mmario_200sx25 Apr 2008, 11:40

Thanks Gary, you 100% sure of that? Soz if sound like a twat! Just want to make 100% sure that the fact I recieve is correct....You understand! 😉

GGary5725 Apr 2008, 12:56

Yes, the DE cam gives 7.8mm lift.

CChemCooladmin26 Apr 2008, 16:03

As I'm such a helpful guy here is a nice alternative, the SR20DE throttle body will also bolt right on, you just need to extend a shaft for the TPS, a mate did this with a pipe and some pratley steel, this gives a nice compromise between the 2,

So Sokar, you telling me that the tps of the sr20 tb, wont do the job for a direct replacement. Is the tps of the sr20 so much different then? To high voltages or what you think? I mean this extension of the shaft sounds like a messy not lekka job.

Chem 8)

mmario_200sx05 May 2008, 13:12

Just to get back at the cam story,

Apparently its not such a good idea to regrind standard ca18det cams....

Any feedback on that?

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