CA18 Head info

EEnzio06 Aug 2008, 17:35

Hi guys.
1) What are the correct torque settings for the headbolts??
2) Also, since the headbolts are stretch bolts - where should I buy replacements (other than Nissan stealerships)??
3) Lastly, the Payen gasket set GS050 listed in the parts list is suitable for the CA18DE according to the Payen catalogue. Is the head gasket for the DE and DET the same??? Surely the DET should use an uprated head gasket??

Plz help, thx.

HHancoB06 Aug 2008, 17:53

I used that one and it works fine. As far as I know the the DE and DET gasket is the same.

Here is the torque settings.

VVladeadmin06 Aug 2008, 17:58

The GS050 gasket is perfect, none of the motors I've used it one ever gave HG problems...

vveecee06 Aug 2008, 17:59

are these part numbers in the parts list?

HHancoB06 Aug 2008, 18:01

Jip, All there!

EEnzio06 Aug 2008, 18:22

Thx guys.
:200sx_200sx:
Now what about the headbolts?? Where should I buy replacements??

vveecee06 Aug 2008, 18:38

the full FSM can be downloaded here:

www.rezlo.com

as for new headbolts - its nissan or ARP. you make the choice! also - my engineer told me that the Ca18 doesnt use stretchbolts, and that i could re-use mine.

so i did.

and i had no shit!

the SR20 definitely uses them - proof is in the manual. it says measure the length of the bolts, if they are longer than xxxmm then do not reuse them.

hanco - please look in that manual for anything on measuring the length of the bolts. if you cant find anything then i say re-use the bolts! but then again lots of people are calling me a doos lately. use it, dont use it! ๐Ÿ˜‰

wwidowmaker06 Aug 2008, 19:06 ยท edited

veecee wrote:

lots of people are calling me a doos lately. use it, dont use it! ๐Ÿ˜‰

ARRRRR!!! sounds like an invitation! I'll use it!

doos!

HHancoB06 Aug 2008, 19:06

Sadly VC you are not a doos... ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜‰

No the bolts aren't stretch bolts and yes you can re-use them.
I did when I did my HG and no problems.

3300sx06 Aug 2008, 19:12

my 2c (at the risk of being called a doos) if your budget will stretch to it ,
get ARP's .. never know how many times that head is still going to come off.. ๐Ÿ˜‚

HHancoB06 Aug 2008, 19:15

I would amen that.

The standard Nissan bolts are good, infact they are not bad at all.
But go read on how the ARP bolts are made. If you know a bit about engineering then you would be amazed.

EEnzio07 Aug 2008, 08:19

I would def get the ARP ones if I had the cash, unfortunately that will have to wait till next year when I build the "play" motor.

Thx for the info guys. Will hopefully meet some of u guys soon: I missed Cars in the Park because I stripped the motor that sunday...oh well.

PPinkfluffybunnys07 Aug 2008, 09:16

Your welcome to come pick-up head bolts at me, I bought a new set from Nissan only used the for two weeks blew the HG again and replaced with ARP .

The Stock Nissan Bolts are crap, you have been warned they tend to loosen themselves

SSlide 'em Wide07 Aug 2008, 10:11

Pinkfluffybunnys wrote:

Your welcome to come pick-up head bolts at me, I bought a new set from Nissan only used the for two weeks blew the HG again and replaced with ARP .

The Stock Nissan Bolts are crap, you have been warned they tend to loosen themselves

Tend to loosen themselves??

Please explain. I may be a bit dumb here but stock motors with the bolts from nissan do 200 000kms + and the head stays on.....

*flame suit on*

vveecee07 Aug 2008, 10:34

no need for a flamesuit dude...

i think PFB should back up his statement. i've never had an issue with stock headbolts. i do NOT think they are crap.

PFB - we're you using a standard headgasket when the stock headbolts "loosened" themselves???

GGary5707 Aug 2008, 10:42

Also PFB, did you retorque the head??

PPinkfluffybunnys07 Aug 2008, 10:46

Yep Stock HG...

But Iโ€™m not going to back-up my statement, been there don that just take the advice or donโ€™t.
The bolts are flawed, I would move to ARP unit if you can.

Please donโ€™t post something like jimmy got 23424KW from the stock bolts, good for Jimmy Iโ€™m just giving my experience here

SSlide 'em Wide07 Aug 2008, 10:53

So tell us the story PFB, That way we get the details, Just feeling short changed.

Just curios!

HHancoB07 Aug 2008, 19:08

mmm Ok so just the fact that your bolts screwed out its crap???

But since more than a 3/4 of the club members,which = 180 members, standard nissan bolts worked fine they should all get them out and do ARP???

mmm ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

SSlide 'em Wide07 Aug 2008, 19:18

yeah thats why i asked for the story,so that we can learn from another without going through the expense. and give us an indication for us to make clearer decisions.

Cum on PFB. we want a little more info....

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