Clutch kits - what you think

Howzit guys..

We my crappy local made clutch has given up the ghost and I’m not in the mood to have one made again so I am going for an imported kit

I would like to go with ACT but they are a bit to price and my budget just cant take the knock right now , So Im thinking of going with the below kit, I have done a lot of R&D on the company and everything look good they are not as good as ACT but they are not as fly-by night company either

F1 Racing Stage 3 clutch kit is a direct factory replacement clutch kit and it's designed for those who seek the ultimate in clutch performance and reliability. F1 Racing clutch kit includes only the highest grade clutch components from the world's leading racing clutch manufacturers. The 6-puck copper ceramic (also known as MIBA) disc features 12 high-coefficient friction pads that are resistant to slippage and ensures long lasting life. The heavy-duty sprung center unit boasts heat treated springs and retainer rivets for the maximum power and durability. The F1 Racing pressure plate features special single diaphragm design to increase clamp load. It features induction hardened diaphragm, CNC machined castings, stronger drive straps and rivets. F1 Racing pressure plate provides smooth and precise feel with easy modulation. All F1 Racing pressure plate is load tested on a special testing tool for quality assurance.

This complete clutch kit includes:
• F1 Racing Stage 3 Heavy-Duty Pressure Plate
• F1 Racing Stage 3 Copper Ceramic 6-puck Disc (225mm, 24 spline)
• Release Bearing
• Pilot Bushing
• Alignment Tool
• Installation Guide

Horsepower Rating: 320 HP / Torque Capacity: 285 ft/lbs

looks good, should be fine how much power you doing?

And how much can you get it for?

Ok the clutch costs R 1200 the shipping is a lot R 900 plus 14% VAT on the clutch so R 168 plus possibly 20 % duties R250

R2518

Pinkfluffybunnys wrote:

Ok the clutch costs R 1200 the shipping is a lot R 900 plus 14% VAT on the clutch so R 168 plus possibly 20 % duties R250

R2518

Not bad

ACT's i think are 4400-4600

I think it will be better then what you can make up

Pinkfluffybunnys wrote:

Ok the clutch costs R 1200 the shipping is a lot R 900 plus 14% VAT on the clutch so R 168 plus possibly 20 % duties R250

R2518

Not bad price. We had this discussion before, but mine was made by Louis Lima with great success. Copper, 6 x puck and double frame pressure plate.
R2400. Will last with nitrous, w/m and the whole lot. Basically no shudder and really easy on my left leg. Not that bad. I am happy with the investment. Louis can do it.

Chem 8)

ChemCool wrote:

Pinkfluffybunnys wrote:

Ok the clutch costs R 1200 the shipping is a lot R 900 plus 14% VAT on the clutch so R 168 plus possibly 20 % duties R250

R2518

Not bad price. We had this discussion before, but mine was made by Louis Lima with great success. Copper, 6 x puck and double frame pressure plate.
R2400. Will last with nitrous, w/m and the whole lot. Basically no shudder and really easy on my left leg. Not that bad. I am happy with the investment. Louis can do it.

Chem 8)

Ye true but chem your left leg is the size of both of mine

I just don’t like local when there’s better for cheaper, Sorry Chem.

I have see a number of local clutch and they just don’t compare to even the basic stuff out there in other countries, My clutch is one of them I would rather fork out for a company with 16 years experience in just clutch making.

The next thing I want to get for my baby

- 2 front cross-drilled/slotted rotors
- 2 rear cross-drilled/slotted rotors

rat wrote:

Ye true but chem your left leg is the size of both of mine

😮 😂 So True!!!!

So you need single frame pressure plate. hehehehe
Chem 8)

just don’t like local when there’s better for cheaper, Sorry Chem.

No, not to worry or to be sorry. It was just a humble(is that the right word?) participation in the topic.

Nothing wrong with your ideas. Your prerogative and enjoy it. Great. You must enjoy!!

Chem 8)

2400 isnt really cheaper than local clutches.

i picked up a sachs clutch the other day for a skyline RB30e (i was silly enough to think that because all the measurements were right it would fit my SR20). the clutch was labelled sachs, but obviously they are supplied by daiken in japan - who manufacture exedy clutches, because thats what was inside the box.

the clutch was one of the best single plate organic kits i've ever seen. definitely had moerse strength, it was so damn beefy. it also only cost 860-00 for the whole kit, which is clutch plate, pressure plate, and thrust bearing.

although my point is flawed because i am talking about a stock clutch kit, i still think its better to support the local dudes when they have good products.

think about the long term benefits. the reason we dont get nice stuff here is that there is no local support for it. if people keep boycotting companies because a product was 200 cheaper to import, then you will never have successful importers in SA, and you will never have a market that is viable for any potential businesses here.

use that, or dont?

you intentions are noble Veecee but flawed because I have supported the local dudes and find there products lacking.

Other people might not have this issue and like Chemcool said but ,I want to set one thing straight if you have not realized the SA motor industry is here to rip you off and a couple of guys buying a Local made clutch is not going to change anything with regards or there standing on our cars or there prices our cars are to rare and there is a big profit to be made.

There are enough Importer out there aswell , And they make a great profit at the end of the month so one or two or 100 guys is not going to make this huge Impact like you say.

Also I'm looking after my money that I work my a$$ off for and If I can get a better world wide proven product for cheaper or around the same price as local then it would be stupid not to go for it. Do you think all the local vendors come together to find way to make things cheaper for us? they run businesses and are here to make money and I'm here to get the best possible product for the cheapest possible price

DOG eat DOG isnt it

look - i knew when i was writing my last paragraph that my noble and flawed is true!

because i also dont buy into the we take your old clutch and make a nice new copper puck one??? a high performance clutch made by a long standing clutch company like daiken or ACT or clutchmasters, etc, with decent R&D and decent testing facilities and decent quality programs like all the ISO 9000's and so on - is always going to be better.

and the economy around is crappy.
and you have to save as much as you can.

but someone has to support local or there wont be local after a while. businesses will only remain in SA if they have a sustainable market.

but thats also difficult - because if the clientele can get better for cheaper then the local companies also have to come to the party and be more competitive!

LOL - i guess its very controversial!

funny.. when i was putting together my motor swap originally , i was really broke, just wanted to get it up and running..

so i had the used clutch plate re-lined, pressure plate re-surfaced, and had the flywheel stepped for more clamping pressure, thinking that i would fork out the money in a month or 3 when it gave in.. i have not been able to break that clutch yet.. go figure. 😉

on a side note, if i could buy stuff locally for R200-00 more than i could import, i would do it with a smile. but in my experience most guys that import put at least a 100% markup on the stuff.. thus slitting their own throats.. 🙄

Hey I ordered those discs two weeks ago, they will be here on Monday!

those cluthces cant take anything over 170kw-have been warned by guys in the States about them

300sx wrote:

on a side note, if i could buy stuff locally for R200-00 more than i could import, i would do it with a smile. but in my experience most guys that import put at least a 100% markup on the stuff.. thus slitting their own throats.. 🙄

Here is a good example:
ACT 6 puc sprung $514 MSRP + $140 shipping (cheapest for under 2 months) = $654 = R5101.80 + 20% duty + 14% tax = R6836.41
http://shop.rezlo.com/SA/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=281 = Same product, R4740.00

Its generaly not the importer, its the people that cant afford anything (or those that pick the cheap route on safety critical items), use substandard hack job rubbish that slit their own throat (actualy legs) off when they explode. Sad part is its usualy other people/spectators that are in the firing line when clutches explode due to people not knowing what they are doing by removing more than 5% weight reduction on cast iron flywheels or using jippo'd pressure plates that are not able to hold high HP... Ususaly those same people that dont use scatter sheilds either as required by MSA.

See, maybe the "importers" arnt trying to slit their own throats, they actualy trying to help you, the consumer,,,, who doesnt have the ability to purchase items in South Africa that both perform and are spec 1.1 or higher, not just for that extra 1kw, but actualy to protect you as well as your investment.

Just my 2c

Got the clutch Kit today, Looks very nice I am very Impressed with the quality when compared to my custom kit when it was out the car

The pressure plate has Exedy printed on the cover, Also looks like it has a Velo imprint there as well, Hoping to have the thing installed next week also making sure the flywheel gets skimmed.

Exedy on Cover
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other Pic's with the stock Clutch
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Clutch Kit
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Hopefully I can stop the damn slipping, I only ever get on good Pull before theold item started slipping

See, maybe the "importers" arnt trying to slit their own throats, they actualy trying to help you, the consumer,,,, who doesnt have the ability to purchase items in South Africa that both perform and are spec 1.1 or higher, not just for that extra 1kw, but actualy to protect you as well as your investment.

fair enough, sorry if i made a blanket statement there,im willing to concede that not all local importers are out to skin the local entusiast, but i have come across a few that only see $ signs when they wake up in the morning.. if i can buy exactly the same item for half the price from a overseas performance shop than i can locally from a performance shop, thats a 100% markup , and greedy in my eyes..

my 2c ..

Please let us know if you get any shudder, this is the only reason I havent changed my clutch yet.