Needs advice

SSpeedy11 Aug 2008, 12:04

Hi there,

Bought a 200sx S13 in Joburg and I'm living in Cape Town.Can someone tell me where I can go to get it tuned?The car has dustek chip and water/meth injection,been to Steve's Auto Clinic and they can't do it.Anyone?

thanx

Speedy

HHancoB11 Aug 2008, 12:07

Yeah, FSR performance at Dynotech. Talk to Faheem.

DDracomoderator11 Aug 2008, 13:46

Speedy is the "infadel" that stole my ride from me........I curse you infadel......give me back my ride..... 😢

Hope you get sorted.....and injoy her.....she was the ride of my life 😀

RRiekertadmin11 Aug 2008, 14:01

hehe!! I saw it in somerset. It looked hawt!! was smoking a bit. but looked good!
😂 😂

DDracomoderator11 Aug 2008, 14:08

He could not get methanol for the water/meth so they decided to disconnect the water/meth and pull back the timing......it did not work, it seems the timing was still too high, car detonated but he did not reallise so piston 1 burnt.....had to redo the engine or that one piston....can't remember.....

But now it's sorted and HE WANTS TO GET IT TUNED properly before murphy steps in again.....

RRiekertadmin11 Aug 2008, 16:35

ah, thats not nice! murphy's a bitch!

SSpeedy11 Aug 2008, 16:53

jip,I'm the guy that stole Draco's ride.(SorrY!)The motor is just redone and yes,I did burn one piston,but replaced all.Decided while its open,get it open and done with.And I'm sorted with the meth,bought a 25litre can. 😈

TTurbophile12 Aug 2008, 09:11

Riekert wrote:

ah, thats not nice! murphy's a bitch!

Luckily you don't know Flanagan like me dude!

Do you guys know Flanagan? He said Murphy is an optimist!

RRB25SX12 Aug 2008, 09:22

You can also try Goch & Cooper, in Brackenfell. Speak to Theo, 021-9811851
Good luck.

lljS1412 Aug 2008, 09:36

Hi Guys,Just joined last night,Have S14,S13,300ZX.Needing the number for FSR Performance(not in book).Going to be doing up my S14 (engine,body and interior).Will post picks of my rides soon

PPinkfluffybunnys12 Aug 2008, 09:45

Hay Speedy

Sorry I am just being curious here but did the car break a ring landing, pit the edges of the piston or start melting\burning the edges
Also what piston? Number 3 ?

RRiekertadmin12 Aug 2008, 11:13

ljS14 wrote:

Hi Guys,Just joined last night,Have S14,S13,300ZX.Needing the number for FSR Performance(not in book).Going to be doing up my S14 (engine,body and interior).Will post picks of my rides soon

WTF!!! Where you been hiding man!! that's a awesome collection!!!

Welcome!! and yes... PICS!

Faheem (FSR): 0824935452

DDracomoderator12 Aug 2008, 11:36

Pinkfluffybunnys wrote:

Hay Speedy

Sorry I am just being curious here but did the car break a ring landing, pit the edges of the piston or start melting\burning the edges
Also what piston? Number 3 ?

He burnt piston 1....the car detonated and burnt the piston, it was setup with the water/meth, then no water/meth.......well the rest is history

GGary5712 Aug 2008, 11:40

That is why I dont rely on w/m, for these very reasons. Rather stick with a safe tune and give up 5kw rather than burning the motor.

DDracomoderator12 Aug 2008, 11:45

True....but the water/meth did not stop because it was finished, they tried to go without water/meth by detunning the the timing....either they did not detune it enough or the unichip went back to the map it was programmed with the w/m.....

PPinkfluffybunnys12 Aug 2008, 12:02

He burnt piston 1....the car detonated and burnt the piston

Detonation doesn’t burn pistons it has a tendency to crack them or the ring lands because of the shock sometimes bend conrods or pit the outer edges of the piston
If it burnt the piston the car ran lean the injection system needs to be looked at.

Corky bell says it best “ Water Injection is best used when boost levels over 6 PSI are desired but no intercooler is present. Do not allow a situation to exit where the water injection is used as an excuse for proper air/fuel ratios”

GGary5712 Aug 2008, 12:06

Well said Corky.

Pink Det will burn a piston if left knocking for long enough the EGT get way to high and a meltdown occur. Also W/m richens the mixture so without it the motor would have been running lean and would have increase burn temps.

PPinkfluffybunnys12 Aug 2008, 12:12 · edited

Pink Det will burn a piston if left knocking for long enough the EGT get way to high and a meltdown occur. Also W/m richens the mixture so without it the motor would have been running lean and would have increase burn temps.

It’s Deting because it’s lean like I said

Leaning will burn a piston increasing the EGT and then presto Detting the leaning occurred first so the cause is a lean mixture not the Deting

But the injection system still might need to be looked or a lower boost setting possibly selected, Is Air fuel measured on the car? If not we can argue this for weeks and never win. At the end of the day it boils down to possibly if the injection system was sorted and the water\meth was only used as a detonation inhibitor and not an all out timing increaser then the motor might have survived that’s all I am saying.

GGary5712 Aug 2008, 12:24

It was detonating because it was lean. Det was the symptom, but running lean was the cause. They work hand in hand and both killed the motor.

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