Hydraulic lifters

AAndrew.200SX20 Nov 2009, 09:03

Hi 1 and all

I have just replaced all 16 hydraulic lifters, they were in containers with oil , so I just put them in "sommer net so". They were completely pap.

The car started and ran for 5 seconds ( 4 of the exhaust side lifters were left in place ,because they were replaced recently) and then understandibly died , because there is no pressure on the lifters. With my Opel we ran the battery down 3 times before it had enough pressure, the SX , I am charging the battery for the 4th time now, and still no joy. It is starting to backfire somewhat now.

Any ideas on a quicker way to get pressure to the lifters ...without stripping them out again ?

Cam timing and all is spot on.

GGuy20 Nov 2009, 09:34

Pull the spark plugs out when you're just spinning the engine over. That will have less load on the battery and allow you to build oil pressure faster.

RRB25SX20 Nov 2009, 09:34

U should bleed them before fitting in engine.

KKCSX20 Nov 2009, 09:47

yip dude you need to bleed them

CCharlvdw20 Nov 2009, 10:07

Seeing that they are in already follow Guy's advice. Did you count the teeth/lobes on the cam belt and did you remove the crank pulley in order to do so?(for the timing that is)

AAndrew.200SX20 Nov 2009, 10:15

I was also just thinking that I should take the plugs out.

With regards to the timing , I set the crank pulley on it's mark , the cam pulleys on their marks, removed the CAS (marked it's position ) and then removed the belt from the cam pulleys.

Put it all back together again , turned the motor a few times , marks all lined up. I actually removed the cam cover again earlier this morning to re-check and timing marks are all right.

CCharlvdw20 Nov 2009, 11:05

Andrew.200SX wrote:

With regards to the timing , I set the crank pulley on it's mark , the cam pulleys on their marks, removed the CAS (marked it's position ) and then removed the belt from the cam pulleys.

Put it all back together again , turned the motor a few times , marks all lined up. I actually removed the cam cover again earlier this morning to re-check and timing marks are all right.

I was sure once i did my timing right as well according to the marks but had my exhaust cam out by one tooth, since then i count the lobes cause looks can be very deceiving regarding this.

AAndrew.200SX20 Nov 2009, 11:52

Please explain how I am suposed to count the lobes? From where to where ?

The timing marks are spot on.

CCharlvdw20 Nov 2009, 12:26

Andrew.200SX wrote:

Please explain how I am suposed to count the lobes? From where to where ?

The timing marks are spot on.

Do you have a manual?

AAndrew.200SX20 Nov 2009, 12:31

Yes , I have a manual. I did the whole job according to the manual. I own a workshop anyway. So I am not a complete idiot.

I mainly do suspension work , so I only fiddle with my own engines, which is why I ask for advice on this forum

ppoizenmoderator20 Nov 2009, 12:49

well where you looked how to do timing alternative it shows you how to count teeth on the cambelt between the dots on the belt gears so just look should be there

CCharlvdw20 Nov 2009, 14:07

Andrew.200SX wrote:

So I am not a complete idiot.

๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€
Never meant to suggest that. The thing just is that ive been working on cars and bikes my whole live(my own mostly like you) and the sx's timing still chucked me a curve ball.

AAndrew.200SX20 Nov 2009, 14:10

No problem , I just meant that I am not a complete fool.

Have also fooled myself a few times

DDracomoderator20 Nov 2009, 14:35

Charlvdw wrote:

my live.

๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ IDIOT

RRB25SX20 Nov 2009, 16:55

Might be s simple question, but u didnt by accedent swop the cams ?

TTobyadmin21 Nov 2009, 11:08

Draco wrote:

Charlvdw wrote:

my live.

๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ IDIOT

Hahaha ๐Ÿ˜‚

nn1smo200sx22 Nov 2009, 10:06

I Tried starting a sr20 that stood for 2 years....took 4 days of checking everything numerous times.It started after that -I wondered if it would've helped to tow the car just to get the engne speed up to raise the oil pressure.
Once it started it was like there nothing wrong !!!Felt like 4 days gone from my life... Keep cranking or tow it I think.

AAndrew.200SX23 Nov 2009, 07:53 ยท edited

Don't think I swopped the cams , but I am going to attack her again today.

CCharlvdw23 Nov 2009, 09:45

Toby wrote:

Draco wrote:

Charlvdw wrote:

my live.

๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ IDIOT

Hahaha ๐Ÿ˜‚

With friends like these..... ๐Ÿ˜•

KKCSX24 Nov 2009, 08:14

yo man are you still having problems with you car i just had my lifters changed by my mac and the car is fine

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