Where to start ... (just got my 200sx)

Hi All,
I am a new member (just bought a stock with no mods at all sx13), its pretty much in a running condition ,
I have been doing quite a bit of research on the net with regards to moding the motor etc, there are so many things that I can do but have no idea where to start, I have purchased a "2nd hand" motor which will give me a couple spares,
Things that I want to start with is the : Engine management system, radiatior, fan , oil cooler , intercooler and the exhaust system
not having the know on the 200sx , i was hoping someone could point me in the right direction , on where to buy these items, I have found a whole load of places on the net as well as in the speed and sound mag, who or where would be the best "1 stop shop" ,
Which engine management system would be the best to use , should i also look at upgraded injectors , if so which woudl be best suited ? I want to be able to connect my laptop to it and "play" with the settings etc.
Someone mentioned that I should look at the Haltek system ? any thoughts and / or ideas ?

Cheers

Brad

welcome... 😉

stage 1: filter and exhuast^^

do you plan on doing all yourself, or having it done?

I wouldn't go playing too much with mapping the ca yourself unless you are prepared for the worst.

I'd go stage 1/2, so exhaust from turbo back, filter, FMIC, Walbro fuel pump, boost controller, boost guage and a T28 if your budget allows.

You can then get a management system installed and mapped professionaly.

Hi ,

Thanks for the replies ...., I am going to do all the work myself, i am hoping that it will be a work in progress ....
having said that, I would like to get the foundation right so i dont land up redoing or buying things that I dont need,

djtreble, do you have any recommendations on where I should buy these items, or should I just shop around ?

Unfortunately I'm in the UK (Only going to be in CPT in April) so I couldn't tell you were in SA to buy them, I'm sure someone will come along here just now to tell you where you could go.

You could pick up a fairly priced second hand T28 off the forum or classifieds if money is an issue.

There is a very good UK company here which I would highly recomend if you can pay the shipping costs, they are:
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/

I will hopefully become a distributor for them in SA in the near future but for now you can buy directly from them.

thanks for the site keep me posted on your distributorship,
I would say money isnt a problem , but I do have a spare few coins to throw at my new toy

So if anyone does have a T28 Turbo lying around lemme know ....

captain7616 wrote:

thanks for the site keep me posted on your distributorship,
I would say money isnt a problem , but I do have a spare few coins to throw at my new toy

So if anyone does have a T28 Turbo lying around lemme know ....

Ofc you can always go for a bit more... Go for a bigger turbo, mani, injectors... and you are in for a good time... Depends on how much you want to spend.

Hey bud, firstly welcome, secondly I would say you have the right idea so far, just ad a walboro or vdo fuel pump capable of about 4bar pressure.... And ye injectors are a good idea, 440 Bosch should be ample to start with, depending on how crazy u wanna build her up. I would also add an aftermarket fuel pressure regulator....

Third and most important, I agree with DJ, leave the tuning to the pro's, or atleast till you know better.

Fourth, welcome to the world of 200SX, also commonly known as "Wait + Pay" which you can expect to do a lot of.....

Good luck and Enjoy bud

EDIT: Sorry just remembered, most important thing is actually to first buy a reliable daily drive before modding the SX. Ha ha ha

POWDER wrote:

Hey bud, firstly welcome, secondly I would say you have the right idea so far, just ad a walboro or vdo fuel pump capable of about 4bar pressure.... And ye injectors are a good idea, 440 Bosch should be ample to start with, depending on how crazy u wanna build her up. I would also add an aftermarket fuel pressure regulator....

Third and most important, I agree with DJ, leave the tuning to the pro's, or atleast till you know better.

Fourth, welcome to the world of 200SX, also commonly known as "Wait + Pay" which you can expect to do a lot of.....

Good luck and Enjoy bud

EDIT: Sorry just remembered, most important thing is actually to first buy a reliable daily drive before modding the SX. Ha ha ha

LOL.... Wait and pay... That is sooooo true....Haven't driven my car in over 2 months. FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!! Haha....And the bank manager hates me.... Knows me by name 🙂

Heard u can pay for mods with uncut diamonds... Lol jus joking bud hope u sort that kak out. Put these crooked cops wer they belong

Talk to Asmdrifting.co.za they can help you out and give you advice..[/quote]

Talk to Asmdrifting.co.za they can help you out and give you advice..[/quote]

@ H8rlequinb - 2 months is nothing compared to my 27 months...

She's been running trouble free for the past 3 months now and I am soooooooooo loving it. Been using it to work everyday now for 3 weeks and achieve about 450-500km's per tank with normal town driving....

As for your mods... I agree with what a few okes here have had to say... leave some things to the tuners that know, ask as many questions and join us in the next meetup to really get to know the cars and the awesome owners they have.

😀

hey guys,

Thanks for all the info .....
lucky i didnt buy for my everyday car ..... something i have been looking for ... for ages .... as advised , I am going to start smalll ... then work on it over time ... ,
I was chatting to an engineer who machines cylinder heads , and I spoke about gas flowing, he said I should just clean it up on a turbo motor , it wont make a difference as it is compressed air going into the head, he said i would be wasting my bucks ? would anyone disagree (i am new to 4 stroke motors and turbos), I am going to send the head in anyway, for a full recon , figured that if i am stripping i may as well , in fact also going to replace all the seals and bearing in the block too (crank etc)

captain7616 wrote:

hey guys,

Thanks for all the info .....
lucky i didnt buy for my everyday car ..... something i have been looking for ... for ages .... as advised , I am going to start smalll ... then work on it over time ... ,
I was chatting to an engineer who machines cylinder heads , and I spoke about gas flowing, he said I should just clean it up on a turbo motor , it wont make a difference as it is compressed air going into the head, he said i would be wasting my bucks ? would anyone disagree (i am new to 4 stroke motors and turbos), I am going to send the head in anyway, for a full recon , figured that if i am stripping i may as well , in fact also going to replace all the seals and bearing in the block too (crank etc)

The power comes from the head... so think for yourself

captain7616 wrote:

hey guys,

Thanks for all the info .....
lucky i didnt buy for my everyday car ..... something i have been looking for ... for ages .... as advised , I am going to start smalll ... then work on it over time ... ,
I was chatting to an engineer who machines cylinder heads , and I spoke about gas flowing, he said I should just clean it up on a turbo motor , it wont make a difference as it is compressed air going into the head, he said i would be wasting my bucks ? would anyone disagree (i am new to 4 stroke motors and turbos), I am going to send the head in anyway, for a full recon , figured that if i am stripping i may as well , in fact also going to replace all the seals and bearing in the block too (crank etc)

HI , IM ALSO NEW TO THE FORUM. IN THE SAME BOAT AS YOU . I WAS AFTER JEREMY BOLTMANS BLACK 200 SX BUT WAS 2 LATE. THEN THE GR8TEST LUCK CAME MY WAY . I WAS OFFERED A 1992 200 SX WITH 35 000Km ON CLOCKS. THE SX ALONG WITH A MX 6 , A FEW CADILACKS & I BELIEVE 1 ROLLS , OWNED BY A FARMER IN THE FREE STATE & HOUSED " COVERED " IN A BARN FOR THE PAST 14 YEARS , WAS FOUND ( A TRUE BARN FIND ) . NEEDLES TO SAY MY SX , STOCK STANDARD , IS BRAND NEW INSIDE & OUT.

SAFETY 1ST . I HAVE STARTED AS FOLLOWS : SET OF 225 x 45 X 18 RIMS & TYRES FULL ROLL CAGE WITH BRACING STRUT ON BACK SHOCK POSTS FOR STIFFENING OF THE BODY , AT TNT . DONE FULL 76mm STAINLESS STEEL EXHAUST FROM TURBO FINISHED AT THE BACK WITH A POLISHED SILENCER BOX & 100mm DIAMETER TIP . COLD AIR INTAKE WITH K& N FILTER . BRAKE UPGRADE IS NEXT. FOLLOWED BY 2 x DECENT COBRA RACE SEATS WITH 6 POINT HARNESS FROM ATS. FOLLOWED BY KONI SPORT SUSPENSION WITH H&R SPRINGS , LOWERING MY RIDE BY 35mm & ACCORDING TO STEVE AT KONI WILL GIVE ME A DECENT HANDLING VEHICLE & NOT SO LOW AS TO CATCH ON EVERY PEBLE. WITH SAFETY DONE. , I PURCHASED A NEW GARRETT BALL BEARING TURBO , SIZE GT2871R WITH .68 TURBINE SIZE , GOOD ENOUGH TO FLOW ENOUGH AIR TO SUPPORT 450BHP DIRECTFROM " TURBODIRECT " IN MEYERTON AT R 9 500 - 00 excl. vat.I VISITED STEVE AT " NO SWEAT RACING " ALSO IN MEYERTON & CONTRACTED WITH HIM TO DO THE TURBO UPGRADE , TOP MOUNT EQUAL LENGTH TURBO MANIFOLD , ALL NEW INJECTORS , DICKTATOR MANAGEMENT , BOOST PIPING & FM INTERCOOLER APPROX 600 x 300 x 76 mm . WITH B.O.V . THE SX WILL ALSO BE TREATED TO A DECENT CLUCTH . I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SOLID 380 ~ 420 BHP AT THE MOTOR, IN A VERY SAFE WAY. I INTEND USING THE SX AS A " BIT OF A TRACK CAR " , FOR MYSELF & MY SON , TO ENJOY .

ONCE ALL MODS " FOR NOW " HAVE BEEN COMPLETED , THE INTERIOR WILL BE DONE & COVERED IN ALCANTARA , ALL OVER , & ALTHOUGH THE ORIGINAL RED PAINT WORK IS STILL EXCELLENT , I PLAN TO ALTER PAINT SCHEME A BIT , BLACK TOP & RED BOTTOM WITH 2 TONE SILVER / ANTRACITE GREY SUBTLE STRIPING . HOPE YOUR BUILD GOES WELL & I CANT WAIT TO ENJOY MY NEW BABY. CHEERS , CHRISTO ( VEREENIGING )

CHRISTO123 wrote:

captain7616 wrote:

hey guys,

Thanks for all the info .....
lucky i didnt buy for my everyday car ..... something i have been looking for ... for ages .... as advised , I am going to start smalll ... then work on it over time ... ,
I was chatting to an engineer who machines cylinder heads , and I spoke about gas flowing, he said I should just clean it up on a turbo motor , it wont make a difference as it is compressed air going into the head, he said i would be wasting my bucks ? would anyone disagree (i am new to 4 stroke motors and turbos), I am going to send the head in anyway, for a full recon , figured that if i am stripping i may as well , in fact also going to replace all the seals and bearing in the block too (crank etc)

HI , IM ALSO NEW TO THE FORUM. IN THE SAME BOAT AS YOU . I WAS AFTER JEREMY BOLTMANS BLACK 200 SX BUT WAS 2 LATE. THEN THE GR8TEST LUCK CAME MY WAY . I WAS OFFERED A 1992 200 SX WITH 35 000Km ON CLOCKS. THE SX ALONG WITH A MX 6 , A FEW CADILACKS & I BELIEVE 1 ROLLS , OWNED BY A FARMER IN THE FREE STATE & HOUSED " COVERED " IN A BARN FOR THE PAST 14 YEARS , WAS FOUND ( A TRUE BARN FIND ) . NEEDLES TO SAY MY SX , STOCK STANDARD , IS BRAND NEW INSIDE & OUT.

SAFETY 1ST . I HAVE STARTED AS FOLLOWS : SET OF 225 x 45 X 18 RIMS & TYRES FULL ROLL CAGE WITH BRACING STRUT ON BACK SHOCK POSTS FOR STIFFENING OF THE BODY , AT TNT . DONE FULL 76mm STAINLESS STEEL EXHAUST FROM TURBO FINISHED AT THE BACK WITH A POLISHED SILENCER BOX & 100mm DIAMETER TIP . COLD AIR INTAKE WITH K& N FILTER . BRAKE UPGRADE IS NEXT. FOLLOWED BY 2 x DECENT COBRA RACE SEATS WITH 6 POINT HARNESS FROM ATS. FOLLOWED BY KONI SPORT SUSPENSION WITH H&R SPRINGS , LOWERING MY RIDE BY 35mm & ACCORDING TO STEVE AT KONI WILL GIVE ME A DECENT HANDLING VEHICLE & NOT SO LOW AS TO CATCH ON EVERY PEBLE. WITH SAFETY DONE. , I PURCHASED A NEW GARRETT BALL BEARING TURBO , SIZE GT2871R WITH .68 TURBINE SIZE , GOOD ENOUGH TO FLOW ENOUGH AIR TO SUPPORT 450BHP DIRECTFROM " TURBODIRECT " IN MEYERTON AT R 9 500 - 00 excl. vat.I VISITED STEVE AT " NO SWEAT RACING " ALSO IN MEYERTON & CONTRACTED WITH HIM TO DO THE TURBO UPGRADE , TOP MOUNT EQUAL LENGTH TURBO MANIFOLD , ALL NEW INJECTORS , DICKTATOR MANAGEMENT , BOOST PIPING & FM INTERCOOLER APPROX 600 x 300 x 76 mm . WITH B.O.V . THE SX WILL ALSO BE TREATED TO A DECENT CLUCTH . I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SOLID 380 ~ 420 BHP AT THE MOTOR, IN A VERY SAFE WAY. I INTEND USING THE SX AS A " BIT OF A TRACK CAR " , FOR MYSELF & MY SON , TO ENJOY .

ONCE ALL MODS " FOR NOW " HAVE BEEN COMPLETED , THE INTERIOR WILL BE DONE & COVERED IN ALCANTARA , ALL OVER , & ALTHOUGH THE ORIGINAL RED PAINT WORK IS STILL EXCELLENT , I PLAN TO ALTER PAINT SCHEME A BIT , BLACK TOP & RED BOTTOM WITH 2 TONE SILVER / ANTRACITE GREY SUBTLE STRIPING . HOPE YOUR BUILD GOES WELL & I CANT WAIT TO ENJOY MY NEW BABY. CHEERS , CHRISTO ( VEREENIGING )

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