Hey Guys,
I need bigtime help, Dicktator is wired and getting spark, have replaced Blown module and have a new coil pack running now instead of SR coils. Car still cuts out at 4500RPM as if limiting even though rev limiter is set to 7100. Brand new dicktator ignition module getting very hot very quick, running the 2 coil pack on a 4 ch module on ch 1 + 2.
What can be wrong? It seems I can't get to the point of this and like I'm never gonna get it running.
Please help !!!!
where is your module sitting
what load is the coils drawing
hows your earth its the most important part to the moduls life
what type of coil pack you running? two cylinders per coil?
cyl1 and 4 / and cyl 2 +3
when you say 4ch, you mean 4 coil / 2 trigger module?
if so you would need to wire 2 triggers from dicktator to module
yellow/black to input 1 and wire 1 of the two outputs triggered by input 1 to coil1/4
then connect yellow/green to input 2 and 1 of the 2 outputs triggerd by input 2 to coil 2/3
hope this helps
remember some opel coil packs dont work with ignitors (alu base)
poizen wrote:
where is your module sitting
what load is the coils drawing
hows your earth its the most important part to the moduls life
Module sitting against firewall
Don't know what load
Module earthed directly to chassis with short 20cm lead
RudeBoy wrote:
what type of coil pack you running? two cylinders per coil?
cyl1 and 4 / and cyl 2 +3 - YUP THAT'S IT
when you say 4ch, you mean 4 coil / 2 trigger module? YUP THATS IT
if so you would need to wire 2 triggers from dicktator to module - THAT'S AS IT IS
yellow/black to input 1 and wire 1 of the two outputs triggered by input 1 to coil1/4 - THAT'S LIKE THAT TOO
then connect yellow/green to input 2 and 1 of the 2 outputs triggerd by input 2 to coil 2/3 - THAT'S AS U SAY AS WELLhope this helps
remember some opel coil packs dont work with ignitors (alu base) NOT AN OPEL ONE IT ANOTHER MAKE NOT SURE
Sorry for the CAPS in my reply to you RudeBoy, just to show diff between ur question and my answer, not shouting.....
[quote="RudeBoy"]what type of coil pack you running? two cylinders per coil?
cyl1 and 4 / and cyl 2 +3
when you say 4ch, you mean 4 coil / 2 trigger module?
if so you would need to wire 2 triggers from dicktator to module
yellow/black to input 1 and wire 1 of the two outputs triggered by input 1 to coil1/4
then connect yellow/green to input 2 and 1 of the 2 outputs triggerd by input 2 to coil 2/3
hope this helps
remember some opel coil packs dont work with ignitors (alu base)[/quote
I'm in the same boat as powder :!: , I'm also using the dictator 4ch ignitor.
Will the opel astra ecotec 2.0 coilpack work ? , or if I want to use 4msd coils,
What msd coils should I get ?
for msd use these https://www.msdignition.com/Products/Coils/Stock_Replacement/8224_-_GM_Coil_Pack,_2_Tower_Style.aspx
turbo & nos stocks these, remember to get the base that goes with the coil
powder, can you post a pic of the module showing the rear with the wires connected, as well as a pic of the coil packs
also a screen print of dicktator main setup page
want to see spark mode / charge time setup as well as pot setup
p.s did you guys replace the cas plate with the dicktator one?
RudeBoy wrote:
p.s did you guys replace the cas plate with the dicktator one?
Now thats a good question. 😀
RudeBoy wrote:
p.s did you guys replace the cas plate with the dicktator one?
rude boy need you help to set this plate up one day
We are both running 60-2 front pulley, dont use C.A.S anymore !!!!
so i'm asuming you running the dicktator 60-2 ???
Yup thats it
RudeBoy wrote:
powder, can you post a pic of the module showing the rear with the wires connected, as well as a pic of the coil packs
also a screen print of dicktator main setup page
want to see spark mode / charge time setup as well as pot setup
Spark Mode = Wasted using Home
Dwell Control = Constant Charge Time
Charge Time = 2.00 millisecond
No of Cyl = 4
Devide Ign = 2
Rev Limit = 7.1
Cut Spark selected
POT inactive
Fuel Pump prime 4 seconds
Load is MAP based
As for the pictures, well I will take some today when at the tuner....
I'm like so thinking of changing management systems at the moment....
that all looks pretty normal, i would normally run more charge time for coil packs - 2.5ms
see : http://www.dicktator.co.za/ignitermodules.html
Where possible the ignition module should be mounted on a metal surface and in an air flow region to aid cooling. Do not mount the module directly on the engine or on the firewall near the exhaust !
CAUTION! The use of ignition coils above 1 ohm may cause miss firing, overheating or damage to the igniter or ignition coil and void any warranty claims
another thing, the little green relay supplied with the ecu is useless and should be thrown away... rather go and buy a hella or similar relay
RudeBoy wrote:
another thing, the little green relay supplied with the ecu is useless and should be thrown away... rather go and buy a hella or similar relay
You mean fuel pump relay? Howcome?
RudeBoy wrote:
that all looks pretty normal, i would normally run more charge time for coil packs - 2.5ms
see : http://www.dicktator.co.za/ignitermodules.html
Where possible the ignition module should be mounted on a metal surface and in an air flow region to aid cooling. Do not mount the module directly on the engine or on the firewall near the exhaust !
CAUTION! The use of ignition coils above 1 ohm may cause miss firing, overheating or damage to the igniter or ignition coil and void any warranty claims
Ye I read all that, but didn't get chance yet to check the resistance since it been at da tuner. I should be getting my car back tomorrow or so then I am gonna check that all out one more time just to ensure everything is right, if I still can't get it reving, I'm just gonna bomb a new system.
Is there anything else you can think of ? Can the crank pickup have anything at all to do with the module over heating? I personaly don't think so but I'd rather ask....
From all the info I have checked I can only see two potential problems, Pickup vibration (maybee not close enough even 0.5 0.6 at the moment) or coil resistance, or even a combination. I been reading a big fuss about the coil issue online though.
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