Bearing Set

sshiraazz06 Jun 2011, 17:28

I want to order a main bearing set for my SR20det, but my mechanic is telling me that I must wait for him to give me the bearing sizes before I order. Wont I get the right sizes if I get the set?

ddjtreble06 Jun 2011, 17:39

The mechanic needs to measure the required bearings as the crank may need a polish.

rregy0506 Jun 2011, 17:39

U have to wait cause he has to measure the wear on the crank

sshiraazz06 Jun 2011, 17:46

djtreble wrote:

The mechanic needs to measure the required bearings as the crank may need a polish.

So when I order I give them the sizes and they gonna adjust the bearings?

aaep88606 Jun 2011, 20:43

i told my mechanic to get the bearing him self... he takes the crank to the bearing works and get the correct size...^^

sshiraazz06 Jun 2011, 20:55

aep886 wrote:

i told my mechanic to get the bearing him self... he takes the crank to the bearing works and get the correct size...^^

My mechanic and his suppliers are taking eons to get it, I talked to his supplier today and I waited till end of today to give me feedback, now I just want to order it online, i have been waiting over a month now to get my car back. What do you suggest?

aaep88606 Jun 2011, 22:25

shiraazz wrote:

aep886 wrote:

i told my mechanic to get the bearing him self... he takes the crank to the bearing works and get the correct size...^^

My mechanic and his suppliers are taking eons to get it, I talked to his supplier today and I waited till end of today to give me feedback, now I just want to order it online, i have been waiting over a month now to get my car back. What do you suggest?

waiting a month is like nothing compare to what we have waited^^ do it right so take the crank to the bearing works yourself^^

sshiraazz06 Jun 2011, 22:48

aep886 wrote:

shiraazz wrote:

aep886 wrote:

i told my mechanic to get the bearing him self... he takes the crank to the bearing works and get the correct size...^^

My mechanic and his suppliers are taking eons to get it, I talked to his supplier today and I waited till end of today to give me feedback, now I just want to order it online, i have been waiting over a month now to get my car back. What do you suggest?

waiting a month is like nothing compare to what we have waited^^ do it right so take the crank to the bearing works yourself^^

Forgive me for I am a noob, but do they make a bearing specially for your crank or what?

aaep88606 Jun 2011, 23:06

YES, any bearing works can do it... and it cheap like hell~ i think i paid R200 for the for all the bearings inside the engine...
i have a cut crank so i need custom bearing sets...

rregy0506 Jun 2011, 23:07

shiraazz wrote:

aep886 wrote:

shiraazz wrote:

My mechanic and his suppliers are taking eons to get it, I talked to his supplier today and I waited till end of today to give me feedback, now I just want to order it online, i have been waiting over a month now to get my car back. What do you suggest?

waiting a month is like nothing compare to what we have waited^^ do it right so take the crank to the bearing works yourself^^

Forgive me for I am a noob, but do they make a bearing specially for your crank or what?

there are standard sizes, they machine your crank to match these sizes...sorry for my english suks hey

rregy0506 Jun 2011, 23:12

Custom made bearings are expensive!!! it is cheaper to machine your crank

sshiraazz06 Jun 2011, 23:14

aep886 wrote:

YES, any bearing works can do it... and it cheap like hell~ i think i paid R200 for the for all the bearings inside the engine...
i have a cut crank so i need custom bearing sets...

WTH, why did my mechanic not do this in the first place?? 😮 😕

sshiraazz06 Jun 2011, 23:17

regy05 wrote:

Custom made bearings are expensive!!! it is cheaper to machine your crank

Who to believe? Guess I'll have to do my own research

rregy0506 Jun 2011, 23:48

Well at least here in my coutry (Mozambique) it is cheaper to machine the crank to match the bearings

sshiraazz06 Jun 2011, 23:58

aep886 wrote:

YES, any bearing works can do it... and it cheap like hell~ i think i paid R200 for the for all the bearings inside the engine...
i have a cut crank so i need custom bearing sets...

Do you know any in Gauteng/Pretoria ? If I find a place that does this, i will be over the moon

aaep88607 Jun 2011, 01:22

look around in your area for automotive engneering place~

BBigKriss07 Jun 2011, 06:32

The knowledge on here is scary !
A series engine will be designed with what is known as life span replacement components.
Bearings , amongst a myriad of stuff, falls under this category.
There are two methods of sizing bearings. The first is where the factory will manufacture a run of differing sized bearings for a series engine.
These bearings are then checked for size and categorized according to deviation in size.
These shells are then allocated a colour to identify them.If a journal is miked up and a specific size is determined, its a simple matter of selecting the appropriate bearing based on the colour code. Most new engines are now designed this way. When stripping an engine such as this, you will see paint dots or smears on the crankshaft next to the appropriate journals.
Each paint colour determines the journal size and ultimately the bearing shell size.
Chevrolet V8 engines will not have a single same sized bearing shell in it today. Even a brand new Chev V8 engine. from the factory.
Alfa Romeo, Renault, Citroen, BMW etc all have now gone this route.

Renault and Ford actually do not allow for a sub assembly to be overhauled these days.You run a bearing, new sub assy. from the agents.

The older and more accepted method of selecting the correct bearing for an overhauled sub assy is where the crank is measured, the size determined and an over sized bearing set purchased for the engine.
These bearings are mostly aftermarket and made by AE, Vandervel, CP and such..Here you will be told by the engineer or self determine that the crank needs to be ground one or even two sizes under. This will only be the case when a std sized journal measures too small for a std. size bearing to be used again.
You will then buy your 0.010" under bearing set and then grind the journals to suite. For those who do not know what the above size is, it is ten thou-ten thousands of an inch or 0.26 of a mm.

My Lexus V8 engine is a colour coded engine. It is currently being built and luckily I do not need to re size the journals here. I am however, using a set of ACL bearings for it. The journals will be polished to size as the ACL set is std and my crank does vary a little in journal to journal size.

If you do not know something guys, learn and learn some more !! Knowledge is everything.

ddjtreble07 Jun 2011, 08:15

I would second acl (race) bearings. They come in a variety of sizes so you need your mech do some measuring to determine the state of the current crank (ie if it needs a regrind or a polish). If the crank gets reground, you select an oversized bearing size based on the most work journal and get all the crank journals matched to fit the selected set of oversized bearings. In the sr20 case this is all you need to know.

sshiraazz07 Jun 2011, 12:24

Thats some interesting stuff, owning a 200sx is turning me into a petrolhead 😂 , I saw that the bearings are sold in different grades, are those the different size ranges? I also found a link that tells you how to calculate the bearings you need from numbers found on the crank and block, what is that about?

http://www.cimotorsports.net/webforum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=653

aaep88607 Jun 2011, 23:15

the quickest way~ take your crank and block to the bearing place and let them do it...
let them do the job and you pay them~ dont stop worring about size and stuff~

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