Project D - 1 DEC 2007

cool, ok, thanks 😉

Gee theres so much going on with everything with parts and all. like u just cant change n crank puley for an aliminium one etc. Im goint o do pleeeenty research and ask alooooot of questions 🙄 😳 before my motor goes back together...

Charl that's exactly what I was thinking 🙂

Hows a update?? Whats happening?? Have you got the new pistons, when will it be running??

Still trying to find out prices from people...

Phoning, and emailing frantically. I have double/triple checked my bank balance think the build might just be in reach so yeah, my goal is mid April for a running car.

Got my new PayPal account running this morning, I struggled for a year to get it going again, lost my old password and they have finally canceled that account. This will allow my to buy parts.

Think the project will be dormant for the next 2/3 weeks.

Arent you buying the parts from Rezlo??

Once bitten twice shy! Well with unbranded products.

what is happening zipperman? dont you wanna get this post to 1000?

Nah I'm not a post whore... Still waiting for part prices 😉

that makes me a post toasty

BAM!

VL@DE...

I think I know what happened. The turbo didn't fail. I purchased a Tubular manifold the same one you have. And some times with these manifold a weld splatter comes loose and flys into you Turbo.

When I checked my manifold I came across a weld splatter that would break off after enough heat cycles

The turbo didn't fail.

Thats strange seeing as the motor is full of bits of turbine impeller. Yes its definitely possible that a piece of weld damaged the turbine wheel however for whatever reason the impeller broke up and destroyed the motor.

So the compressor killed the motor, not the turbine? Ouch...

No the turbine killed the motor.

I was thinking a bit of weld splatter broke off , the one i removed from my manifold was pretty big went through the exhaust wheel made it unbalanced and it broke off..

And reversion sucked it all back into the combustion chambers.

Well it puts it into perspective 😮

I'll go over the manifold decently before we put it in, I didn't do it the first time round, I did look down it though, but it wasn't good enough.

Small Update - the new parts are ordered and on there way!

I must send my lazy ass over to Duane's shop so I can fix the ABS bracket, need to have a bonnet on when the new engine goes in!

Vlade wrote:

Once bitten twice shy! Well with unbranded products.

Explain how this had anything to do with somthing I sold you?

Not that it means much, but ive used and sold over 200 of these manifolds on/for CA18, SR20, RB25, RB26 and B and D series honda's for over 3 years, I have never ever had one have slag inside it, they run flexible hones thew them (if you actualy look inside before installing) so the chances of any slag coming loose is slim to nothing.

Besides, with the way your car was running when the ecu was being trouble shooted with it miss firing and running on 2 cyl will dammage a turbo far faster than you could imagine.

Is a pitty though, your set up should have been wild 😉 next time read the little page that comes with the CP's on how to gap your rings, even if somthing didnt dammage the turbo, that motor never would have lasted for more than a few weeks till ring bind killed it.

But as with everything, we all learn from our mistakes, and it can only get better from here right?

Ja Meneer... Your sarcasm is not the least bit appreciated. You are like the Verimark adds on TV... All sounds blerry good but its hard to believe.

Look I admit I made the mistake with the piston ring gaps that is plain in-experience right there. So don't be sarcastic and tell me to read the little paper I did that but understanding what they meant is where the in-experience laid.

I'm not sure what you mean by the ECU problems, that is most definitely not the cause. My car started misfiring way after I started hearing the noises not before, as mentioned it ran like a stallion for 80km.
The cause of the problem is that my turbo was damaged by some object(s), where that object(s) originated is really hard to determine, but the most likely culprit is the tubular manifold... There is no clear indication that it originated from anywhere else, Phinx's post actually brought the missing pieces of the puzzle together, I'm not saying it is the cause but nor am I denying the fact that is the most probable cause.

I know you will post back with some other Verimark like story... blah blah... I can honestly do not care, my experiences with some of your products tell a different story, and from rumors going around I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE. Mine was just way more catastrophic, and its here in the public eye.

🙄 I wasnt being sarcastic, My first engine i built I didnt gap the rings either, every body makes mistakes... and everybody learns from mistakes...

Please guys, if you have a problem with one of my products tell me!!! how am I as a supplier supposed to recify things or upgrade products if I dont get told? This is the 1st case im hearing of this, so please if you have a problem tell me or tell everyone and email me a link, either way if there is a problem it must be addressed not so? To date the only problem I know of with any of my manifolds is the ABS clearance on certain CA18 motors, Nissan changed the mounting bracket on some of the UK import bodies but not all of them, and I prewarned all of my CA18 customers for this before they baught it, including yourself.

Its funny, if i baught somthing and it caused a problem or be suspected to cause a problem i would be at my PC in a FLASH sending the supplier an email saying WTF. Maybe im the only one, I for sure would have at least made contact with the supplier to tell them about the problem.

Again, im sorry about your dammage, it would have been a potent setup.

Rezlo wrote:

🙄 I wasn't being sarcastic, My first engine i built I didnt gap the rings either, every body makes mistakes... and everybody learns from mistakes...

Ja like Duane said school fees. Sorry if came across with a temper, the whole thing got fired up a bit.

The ABS thing is not an issue, I knew that was coming long time. 😉

The thing about notifying you if something had/caused a problem: I mailed you about my oil cooler lines, remember I told you the crimped bit started leaking. You told me to just take it to a hydraulic place and let them re-crimp it.

The way the message came across wasn't very comforting, to put it bluntly its nearly like you said "its impossible that it can leak, I sold 100's, I run one on my RB, none had problems, the leak is your fault". So I had the connection re-crimped, I arrived at Duane's shop with the car, and another one started leaking. I figured by the previous email that you made your sale and weren't prepared to help me with any after sales service.

When the whole manifold saga happened I was prepared to drive down to PE and bliksim you with manifold, that is who P'd off I was. The thing is Ian these stuff is mass produced, there could have been a slight chance that there was still welding splatter inside the manifold, Phinx found some, that is the most probable cause. Now that it happened it's costing me a boat load of money, money that was meant for other things, money waisted that wasn't my fault. Yes the engine would have F'd out sooner or later due to the ring gaps, but at least it wouldn't have been one of your products that caused the engine to fail.

Now just for kicks.. Lets say for a fact it was the manifold that caused the engine failure what will you do about it?