Project Greenstone.

BBigKriss02 Mar 2011, 20:32

Skylinefreak wrote:

Stock S14 manual final drive is also 3.7

IT IS ???????? 😀 😀 Thanks...(thumbs up smiley here )

SSkylinefreak02 Mar 2011, 20:37

Yup, same as R31 3.0SGLi manual as well 😉

BBigKriss02 Mar 2011, 20:43

Ok, I have to ask. Do you know if the Z32 sub frame fits the S14 at all ? I am sure there will be minor mods to be done . Need to know if it is viable or not..

SSkylinefreak02 Mar 2011, 21:07

I have absolutely no idea... Maybe ask Ian?

BBigKriss02 Mar 2011, 21:08

Will do, thanks..

ddjtreble02 Mar 2011, 21:30

Love the shifter, almost bought one mysefl!

DDriftZ02 Mar 2011, 22:44

WANT SHIFTER!

saw one on Ebay.uk .. but it was sold before i got a chance to bid 🙁

RRiekertadmin02 Mar 2011, 22:54

haha that shifter is pretty damn epic!

CCharlvdw03 Mar 2011, 07:05

Nice shifter, how much is the Z32 box shorter than the Fat-boy?

BBigKriss03 Mar 2011, 07:39

No idea..will get to that shortly..

BBigKriss04 Mar 2011, 06:21

Sometimes a person cannot see the tree`s for the woods..Know what I mean??
Driving my car as a daily I am getting real bad fuel consumption.I mean REAL bad..
Ok, Getz chicky still tries me every day and I have to at least beat her on my way home so sometimes its a trailing throttle building up gentle boost to just just pull ahead without all the drama. I enjoy her, full of spunk, giving it horns every time we meet..so, yes. I do gee it a couple of times here and there.

BUT, I have also not been happy with all sorts of things regarding response and engine pickup.

Driving her back from Paarl I was impressed with the mapping as in how smooth it was all over and she actually was not bad driving .

Now, when I come across a map like this I have a look, save it for emergency fcukups and then start playing. I have been playing a lot but something still was not right in the response area.. Pick up was also lacking..Last night I leave for home and connect the laptop., basically throw caution to the wind and start setting "my" preferred timing and fueling map. Timing for response and pickup-especially into boost between full throttle n/a and about 0.5 Bar..previously this was set at 19 degrees , I had picked it up to 22 deg conservatively but last night kept it at n/a levels. ie: 37 deg sloping down to 25 deg at 1.2 bar .

Faaark ! To say I really enjoyed my dive into work this morning is a gross under statement...!
The pick up even in first gear is spectacular. The pickup at highway speeds is phenomenal by comparison to the previous setup which I thought was pretty good.
Ok, it was a drive to work of about 25 Kays only , it may be a damp squid later on after a few drives but I dont think sooooo....

On the down side I also leaned things out at the bottom end for cruising. This resulted in a serious popping of the exhaust on over run..with lurid flames from the exhaust as I was driving through Edenvale town and noticing the yellow glow in the shop windows ! Lekker for showing off and swinging your dick but not good for numerous reasons. Went back to the extreme vac area on the map and found my rich running region ! 2.2 ms on 650 cc injectors on overun will give you vlamme by the dozen !

Funny thing is the Lambda sensor was NOT telling me this ! Strange, makes me wary of the sensor so I will replace it today with a new one. For shits and giggles I will also fit my Innovate setup to do comparative monitoring..

I have already been asked by some RB owners for the maps I have done. I will make these available to the forum as soon as I have finished (haha!!) with the maps and am happy with the results.

No expectations given or expected , just my little effort in making my car better for ME..but you are welcome to try and criticize, constructively and perhaps with a cumulative input we can nail this all down..for std. engines at least...

8)

RRB25SX04 Mar 2011, 06:32

How do u monitor knock ? RB piston ringlands dont handle knock well 😉

BBigKriss04 Mar 2011, 07:02

Typed a moerse reply and it was deleted..will do so ltr..

DDanielmoderator04 Mar 2011, 08:22

Great stuff! I love the progress going on here 😀

Keep up the excellent work.

RRudeBoy04 Mar 2011, 10:27

nice work so far, love the ikea shifter.

you sure the timing is matched between dicktator and motor?
below is a table of my stock motor timing that ran a 12.2sec 1/4
3bar map sensor, scaled to 2.4 bar span

--------| -0.90 | -0.36 | 0.27 | 0.89 | 1.52
9000--| 40 | 40 | 28 | 27 | 26
8000--| 39 | 40 | 28 | 27 | 26
7000--| 38 | 39 | 28 | 27 | 26
6000--| 45 | 44 | 35 | 26 | 26
5000--| 46 | 44 | 35 | 26 | 24
4000--| 45 | 44 | 38 | 26 | 24
3000--| 40 | 40 | 37 | 26 | 24
2000--| 36 | 33 | 30 | 22 | 22
1000--| 21 | 21 | 19 | 13 | 13
750---| 16 | 14 | 13 | 13 | 13
250---| 11 | 18 | 13 | 13 | 13

RRudeBoy04 Mar 2011, 10:42

sorry bout the table, spaces seem to dissapear when i submit

for responce, try tomei 256 poncams
see someone advertising gt35 for good price, spools alot faster than the "mr turbo" turbo

p.s remember dailback timing light and wasted spark will give false reading
rather zero the light and use the pulley marks, centre mark = 15degree

BBigKriss04 Mar 2011, 12:01

Invaluable info bud, thanks a ton.
Yes, turbo may be on upgrade but not quite yet. The response at the moment is rather good.
Mmm, cams...yea, I may start playing at some stage..
Dial backs are a bugger if you are not aware of wasted spark setups ..

Using my old trusted Snap-on light..

Looking at your timing data I'm moving in the right direction..

BBigKriss06 Mar 2011, 16:13

So my only lift is and has been occupied by a BMW X5 that has had a water damaged engine. So the complete front suspension is out hence my frustration at not being able to get my car on a lift.

Yesterday I finished off my mate Johns GT4 Celica for him but struck problems as we are leaving to meet up with Fred at the Rock.

Boost keeps hitting 1.5 bar and blowing everything off in sight. (Fitted a new GT3071R..)

So off to a mate of mines shop and we sort the problems out on the Celica.

We finish of at about 3:45 and I decide to stick my car on the lift... 😮 😮

The engine is being held up by the anti roll bar at the front and by the steering rack at the rear. All on the sump !!

The engine mounts have been cut from 10mm plate welded up in a triangular setup -extremely strong-but its way forward of the car mounting point. Mounts are held down with a single 12mm bolt onto the car.
These bolts have , because of the weight of this engine, and the fulcrum effect it has on the single bolt, now torn out of the car and the engine has come to rest on the above mentioned components.

Guys, if you`re going to this , make sure the engine rests in a downward direction on the chassis. Here we have a heavy engine with a fulcrum effect of at least twenty cm back to the original mounting tower, held on by the original single bolt.

I simply shake my head in disbelief at this .

On a brighter side I put the waste gate outlet back into the exhaust. There was no pipe attached to the waste gate at all, so it was fcukin awful to listen to.
Besides, a screamer is just not me.

Today I took the turbo off so I could get some specs. on it. Ok, so its a chinese turbo with probably local Mr Turbo cast exhaust housing on it. No data, no A.R number, nothing.

I stuck on my spare built sleeve turbo of known specs to see how things compare.
My turbo has a .58 A.R hot housing, dash 5 Turbonetics shaft, 60-1 comp wheel and a .60 AR. cold side. and its still a sleeve bearing turbo.

Verdict ? A bit longer to come on boost, but good solid sweep up to 14 psi. with that real silent sound..know what I mean ?? 😉

Ill order a new BB from Ian this week for her. after fixing up everything...and the box has now finally had it as well. Select reverse and it whines like a biatch. Select first and it clunks loudly as you take off.
It is going to break soon.

Oh, and once I`ve sorted everything out the engine and new drive train will come onto the market.

My project engine and drive train is now compete for this car. 😀 😀

SSkylinefreak06 Mar 2011, 16:25

Do you have any pics of the old mounts?

BBigKriss06 Mar 2011, 16:45

Skylinefreak wrote:

Do you have any pics of the old mounts?

Oh, I will definitely take some ..

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